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Xbox One: Stand it Vertically "At Your Own Risk"
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Microsoft has reiterated that Xbox One cannot be stood vertically on its side, and attempting to do so will damage the console due to its slot loading disc drive. It's not due to a cooling problem either, but down to the design of the console.

"We don't support vertical orientation; do it at your own risk." Xbox Senior Product Manager Albert Penello stated at TGS. "It wouldn't be a cooling problem, we just didn't design the drive for vertical. Because it's a slot loading drive, we just didn't design it for both".

For some reason, both PS3 and PS4 use slot loading drives, but can be stood vertically or horizontally, although according to Penello, more people prefer the latter orientation. "We found, interestingly enough, that 80 percent of people, believe it or not, have their Xbox [360] horizontally."

Consult the image below to see how you should place your Xbox One when you purchase it on November 22nd. Don't say we never do our bit to help.

[Via GameSpot]


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Comment #1 by danny dee
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:29:38 AM
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What's life without a few risks, eh?

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Comment #2 by Launch
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:29:40 AM
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At this point there's no excuse for not being able to stand it vertically.

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Comment #3 by Nitnoid
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:31:28 AM
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Comment #4 by wes coas 4 life
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:31:34 AM
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I prefer horizontal anyway.

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Comment #5 by thenewpeter
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:36:47 AM
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Most people have their 360 horizontal because having it vertical leads to it breaking more easily. Every one of mine has broken that i stood vertical, yet this arcade system has out lasted them all by a large amount by being kept on its side.
My ps2 never had this issue, still stood vertical, still work perfectly, and its over a decade old now.

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Comment #6 by ziggy78900
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:39:54 AM
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to big to set it vertical

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Comment #7 by MoonGoose
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:41:51 AM
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For me it's just; if you put it vertical, let's face it - it's going to get knocked over at some point!

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Comment #8 by RichieA
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:42:26 AM
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Horizontal cant fall over

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Comment #9 by GetInTheVanIHaveCandy
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:42:37 AM
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This qualifies as gaming news?
Must be a slow day at the office.

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Comment #10 by Earth Djinn
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:46:00 AM
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My Wii is the only console I've ever displayed vertically.

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Comment #11 by x_Silxx_x
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 06:56:00 AM
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Looks like I'll need a bigger TV stand, because it's never going to fit laying down :(

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Comment #12 by Timmeh
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:05:39 AM
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Prefer vertical because otherwise I can't fit all my consoles on the desk due to the fact they also get too hot if you put anything on top of them when horizontal.

Just take up way too much space horizontal.

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Comment #13 by Sanchezz4387
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:14:56 AM
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to be fair M$ have made 3 consoles now and only 1 of the 3 were able to be stood vertically anyway so its not a big deal......although the box itself is fecking huge and i know id have nowhere to store it, and thats before we get to the telegraph pole...sorry kinect

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Comment #14 by HoBBitzz
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:15:05 AM
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@2 Christ isn't there anything you dont moan about, you must lead and really dull life, get out more, and while yer out order a ps4 and go moan somewhere else ffs

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Comment #15 by AlienDenzil85
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:15:18 AM
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So much for playing it diagonally!

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Comment #16 by Masterdebator88
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:17:27 AM
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Ultra BS. So no this giant box has to take up as much room as possible. I have all of my consoles lined up vertically. Where the hell am I supposed to make room for this big ass box? Fuck it, I'm getting a PS3.

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Comment #17 by Walecs360
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:19:15 AM
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Why should I put it vertical?

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Comment #18 by MxNor
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:19:31 AM
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I'm going full digital, so if the only issue is the loading disc slot, then I'm going to put it vertically and see what happens

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Comment #19 by GalrenCreptus
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:22:06 AM
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Horizontal is always better anyways. If it's standing vertical and falls over chances are you just damaged your hard drive (due to the heads hitting the platters - which already operate at the equivalent of 747 flying 5 feet off the ground). Some hard drives use glass platters, Toshiba I believe, so if those take much of a hit then the heads hitting the platters could make them shatter and you're really screwed then.

Unless it's a solid state of course but given the limited number of read/write cycles I think you're better off with a platter based drive.

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Comment #20 by Rickmassacre
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:26:44 AM
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i have mine horizontal because a few times ive knocked it over and damaged discs, really isn't worth it.

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Comment #21 by Anus_McCarthy
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:36:26 AM
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Mine's on a fireplace mantle behind the TV. Unfortunately this confirms no Xbone. :(

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Comment #22 by Tai_MT
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:39:32 AM
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Don't stand it vertically? I don't think I've ever placed a console vertically because I know the physics behind such a thing and why it's generally not a good idea, even if the console is designed for it. Disc Drives just work better horizontally. On top of which, it's easier to find a place to put it if it's horizontal instead of vertical.

But, at least it's nice that Microsoft told people not to do something that most aren't going to do anyway.

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Comment #23 by AKfoy0face
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:52:17 AM
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people who stand it up are dumb as hell

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Comment #24 by ZingZitang
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 07:57:04 AM
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Is it really that bug of a deal to lay it horizontally?

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Comment #25 by Zumato
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 08:13:07 AM
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Ya know...despite Microsoft making this announcement, people will still stand it vertically and raise hell when/if they have any issues.

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Comment #26 by PrismSub7
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 08:24:24 AM
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Horizontal might be better for some people. But the vertical position lowers your cpu/gpu temperature by about 3 degrees and lowers your change of rrod.

And disc scratching isn't a excuse, install your games.

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Comment #27 by Chaosflare
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 08:31:14 AM
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The way it'll sit on my desk, it's better horizontally.

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Comment #28 by Etown Scarface
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 08:36:55 AM
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I have no room to stand it vertically anyways. Just seems like an unnecessary risk of someone knocking it over.

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Comment #29 by DragonessAthena
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 08:46:19 AM
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Wow, some people here who don't know how to handle electronics.

Storing a console vertically was introduced by Sony as a ploy to sell more consoles. The disc drive breaks down more often when in a vertical position, because some parts have to fight gravity to work. Almost everyone I knew who stored their consoles in a vertical position had it break down eventually. I myself had a vertical disc drive in my brand new PC, and I've gone through 2 drives already, and will be replacing it with an external HORIZONTAL USB drive.

So no, storing it vertically is the quickest way to kill your consoles. This is a good thing.

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Comment #30 by yamayamayaamaa
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 08:50:57 AM
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Even with the 360, vertical is known to scratch discs...

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Comment #31 by _Nosferatu_
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 09:00:13 AM
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Yeah this one doesn't look like it was made to stand vertical. I've always had my 360 vertical without any problems, btw.

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Comment #32 by HaloMonkey
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 09:40:02 AM
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I have my 360 vertically and always hav. I've nearly had it 3 years now and I've never had any problems with it falling over or whatever. I only have it vertically though because it fits better.

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Comment #33 by iBlaise
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 09:54:57 AM
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I keep my 360 vertical, but I've never knocked mine over. The only thing that I gripe with is when I put the disc in the tray, sometimes gravity will cause it to fall out as the tray closes.

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Comment #34 by FatalDeathSG45
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 10:02:21 AM
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I always keep my 360 horizontal, mainly because standing it vertically, if I heard correct, increases the chance of discs getting scratched.

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Comment #35 by Shadow Warlock
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 10:07:59 AM
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@22 finding a spot for it is easier when it's horizontal? Now you're talking crap.

I prefer standing my 360 & PS3 vertical. That way I can pretty much have them both right next to each other (with a decent sized gap for ventilation) and have them take up hardly any space.

If I had them both horizontal, it'd be insanely difficult for me to find a space were I could place them all.

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Comment #36 by colderclimate
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 10:15:54 AM
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No, standing a console vertically doesn't scratch discs. Standing a console vertically and jolting it with a wired controller or having pets / kids (or even being a kid) and moving it whilst playing a game scratches discs. Don't blame looking after a console badly on a hardware manufacturer. Dropping a telephone in water doesn't do it any good but I wouldn't have the nerve to call Nokia and tell them it was there fault it wasn't waterproof.

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Comment #37 by menoknow 88
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 10:18:15 AM
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When I had my original 360 I had had it in the vertical position for the longest time, but when after a while my disk of Gears of War stopped playing. I looked at it and the position that I had it in let it be susceptible to the vibrations on the ground causing the reader to move a tiny bit. This made the reader scratch the disk and made it unplayable. Since then I have never had any system stand that way even if it is more convenient that way, I just never wanted to risk the disk breaking again.

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Comment #38 by colderclimate
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 10:25:51 AM
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Also, why is my profile apparently frozen in time.. my GS changed a long time ago!

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Comment #39 by FroZeNSouL
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 10:31:42 AM
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Lol ms cant replicate wat a wii did 6yrs ago?

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Comment #40 by SkullFire58
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 10:40:02 AM
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The first day I had my Xbox 360, I stood it up vertically. Within hours, my first disk was destroyed. It became a copy of Halo 3 with 3 halos.

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Comment #41 by DaChiefOfOwnage
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 11:35:55 AM
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No matter how long I consult that image, I cannot figure out how to make an Xbone float.

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Comment #42 by Alec216
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 11:39:36 AM
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Even the original Wii had slot loading and stood vertical. Surely it's more effort to design a drive that CAN'T stand vertical!!!?

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Comment #43 by runswithscissors
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 12:13:27 PM
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thats how you should place it? its FLOATING

ive had mine vertically for over 2 years and nothing happened. same with the wii and that was front loading

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Comment #44 by BeheldBryan
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 12:14:33 PM
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Laying systems horizontally takes up way too much space if you end up getting all the systems like I do. I never broke a disc nor have I ever knocked my system over while using it vertically. Having said that, it is best to have the system sit horizontally.

Pretty sad an old computer I have can handle vertical loading but this next gen system can't.

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Comment #45 by smacd
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 12:51:21 PM
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It slot-loads so it can't be vertical? What a load of bunk, my Wii never had a problem with being vertical, and its a slot-loader.

I've never had any problems with my 360 being vertical, nor my PS2s. No scratched discs, no RRoDs. My cats have knocked over the PS2 a couple times, but only because as a corded system I have to move it into the middle of the floor to play in my current place.

My current set up has no room for a horizontal-only large system. On the other hand, I currently have no plans to get an xbone. So I don't really care at this point. If I do get one, I'll definitely have to get a wood-panel skin so it looks even more like 70s hardware. Damn thing should be able to play upside-down without problems in 2013.

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Comment #46 by matt schwindt
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 12:57:47 PM
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why would someone be dumb enough to stand any system vertically anyways??

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Comment #47 by Restricted-Access
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 01:03:47 PM
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My girlfriend and I prefer horizontal... 69 is really too difficult vertical.

Wait... what are you guys talking about???

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Comment #48 by three15
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 01:25:08 PM
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This is meant to be next gen? Still can't protect discs, still can't run many games at a native 1080p and still trying to force kinect down peoples throats. Meh.

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Comment #49 by JT Fever
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 01:37:38 PM
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Consult the image below to see how you should place your Xbox One when you purchase it on November 22nd. Don't say we never do our bit to help.

it would appear that I have to make it float?

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Comment #50 by Cinderkin
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 01:55:11 PM
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I said this when they first did the unboxing, they still have the warning label under the disc slot. How is it that this day in age they can't figure out how to protect the game disc from getting scratched?

I had my PS3 vertical and it was knocked over once while playing a game and the disc was fine and the game continued to play. Vertical saves SPACE! Not to mention this box isn't (the one to rule them all) as I still need my 360, my cable box and now external hdd's. So were am I going to fit all this shit?

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Comment #51 by Mrryan12
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 03:17:26 PM
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I don't understand how so many people knock over their Xbox "because" it is vertical. If you aren't careful than either way you're bound to knock something over. "My Xbox is just sitting right here, OH LOOK SHINY RED BALL!"

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Comment #52 by Sparda
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 04:18:17 PM
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*looks over at his vertical CPU* I um... doesn't quite understand. Most CPU's are vertical and by and large the CD drives work just fine this way. I mean yeah sure I can lie it down, because I like it that way. But there's no real reason it shouldn't have been designed to stand straight up. Also I have no bloody idea how so many people knock their equipment over. If I am standing a console or computer up I am making sure it is secure.

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Comment #53 by francisrossi
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 05:53:17 PM
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I've dropped my 360 more times than I've knocked my vertical PS3 over (1-0 there). Vertical takes up less room, which is useful if a device has vents on the top, like the 360, as you can't stack them. Used to have my VHS on top of my DVD player and my Freeview decoder on top of both.

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Comment #55 by dementedlullaby
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 11:39:28 PM
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I used to run vertical but I got a new TV so gaming stuff moved to the new TV. Was great for the room I was gaming in at the time because I was super limited space wise. Horizontal...Vertical...I've had consoles break either way. I've never had a problem with knocking a console over either. Especially now since I don't even have to touch the console unless I'm switching discs.

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Comment #56 by OfflineAchievementsHunter
Friday, September 20, 2013 @ 11:40:06 PM
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I've had my Xbox 360 and PS3 standing vertical since day one and I've never had any problem with it (no rrod, freezes or scratches). If you guys knocked it over standing vertical then you obviously don't know how to take care of a console, except for people with no space and have to put in the middle of their room and gets it knocked over because of kids,pets,etc.

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Comment #57 by Ned King
Saturday, September 21, 2013 @ 01:31:34 AM
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Still looks like an old VHS recorder no matter what way you stand it lol.

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Comment #58 by weseds90
Saturday, September 21, 2013 @ 06:38:15 AM
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every console i've owned has been placed horizontally (including the WII) so why would i start now? plus it looks tidier along side everything else thats connected to my TV

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Comment #59 by TheHarbinger
Saturday, September 21, 2013 @ 08:21:26 AM
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Don't stand this shit vertical anyways since I had it fall over one time and ruin my Fable 3 disc. Plus it can't stand vertical on my TV stand, and I won't be putting a 500 dollar system on the floor.

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Comment #60 by pottejd
Saturday, September 21, 2013 @ 10:39:06 AM
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What people don't seem to realize is that space available is based entirely on your entertainment setup. In my home we have two large entertainment centers with set-top areas for televisions. In both of these we have six slots for components, and all of those slots just happen to fit a horizontal console. However, there are some space limitations for certain setups that would require a vertical console. So just because you have no space for a vertical/horizontal console, doesn't mean that everyone else owns the exact same entertainment center.

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Comment #61 by parkwaydr
Saturday, September 21, 2013 @ 10:56:15 AM
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It's fundamentally bad design if the unit operates while its in a vertical position. Surely the unit should detect this and power down with a warning? Never mind, "do it at your own risk".

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Comment #63 by flechetteXXX
Sunday, September 22, 2013 @ 12:09:28 AM
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I have never stood either of my 360s vertically there is absolutely no point

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Comment #64 by I King Slash I
Sunday, September 22, 2013 @ 07:49:03 AM
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Hasnt this always been an issue with Xbox? I remember everytime I stood my 360 up it would scratch a circle into the center of all my discs

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Comment #65 by YungAssasin32
Sunday, September 22, 2013 @ 10:15:43 AM
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I cant be the only one that thinks they rushed the xbox one just 5 more months and it could of given the ps4 a run for its money

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Comment #67 by cuzin26
Monday, September 23, 2013 @ 10:40:08 AM
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For $500 I should be able to do what I want with it. Xbox 4 Life!!!

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Comment #68 by Daniel55645
Tuesday, September 24, 2013 @ 10:12:55 PM
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i have mine vertical but that's because I don't really have room for horizontal. i plan on mounting my tv on the wall, then i'll set both of them next to eachother horizontal

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