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Halo 5 Multiplayer and Balancing to be Addressed and Improved, Says 343i
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We still don't know whether 'Halo for Xbox One' is Halo 5 proper, as it hasn't been properly announced as such just yet, but 343 Industries is already putting the feelers out for feedback on where it went wrong with Halo 4. It all started with the developer's Design Director, Brad Welch initiating a Twitter conversation about Halo multiplayer.

"Halo MP is a challenging beast. Part of my love for it is the Quake arena tradition. We didn't service this so well in Halo 4," Welch tweeted, leading to a number of responses and exhanges.

One fan noted that it was too easy to max Halo 4's multiplayer progression, to which Welch replied: "Very fair point. I actually designed that system and feel bad that it tapped out. Major surgery pulled me out of H4 a bit early." Welch then added: "There was a few moving parts there that caused that, but we've fed all the stuff we didn't think went well into future plans."

A more visible way of conveying a player's skill and ranking was also called for by another fan, to which Welch responded: "So visible skill is what you want, right? Tell me what your favorite skill ranking system in any game!" Halo 2 and 3 were then cited as examples. "Same basic feedback we hear a lot from H4," Welch stated.

Later on, Welch then addressed Halo 4's multiplayer map packs, reviewing the balance of DLC maps. "Not great, yeah. We have to plan DLC early, so ultimately I didn’t balance internal, external & DLC maps well enough," he said. "Plenty of decisions are on me. Big games are tough. We’ll improve next time."

Looking ahead to Halo 5, Welch offered some tantalising tidbits on what 343 Industries is shooting for. "Going to make whatever future 60fps, dedi server Halo we may make as awesome as possible to as many fans as possible." And as for multiplayer? "Let’s just say our internal MP team is much bigger than Halo 4."

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Comment #1 by Safari beatle
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:11:33 AM
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Only I want from halo 5 is better story and bigger multiplayer matches (16 vs 16)


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Comment #2 by I mak3 big boom
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:11:59 AM
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I'll buy an Xbox One if they make a halo themed console.


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Comment #3 by ronnie42
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:13:14 AM
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I'll believe it when I see it. Halo 4 wasn't exactly perfect, hopefully 343i learn from their mistakes.


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Comment #4 by Kai Tetley
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:13:16 AM
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First "Halo" of the new generation of hardware. I'm looking forward to it.


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Comment #5 by Craphex
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:13:51 AM
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This all sounds good to me! I cannot wait, loving my XB1.


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Comment #6 by LokTechCEO
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:17:29 AM
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Good news, the BR better be as good as the DMR at launch this time


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Comment #7 by Chaos Warrior 0
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:18:14 AM
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@2 I'm waiting for the inevitable Halo themed Xbox One, they did it with 360, not sure about the original Xbox though, I had a PS2 back in them days, glad I switched sides


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Comment #8 by ronnie42
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:25:45 AM
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@7 same, hopefully with the Xbox using sounds from Guilty Spark.


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Comment #9 by dementedlullaby
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:32:04 AM
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Well at least they're addressing the issues. I still think the base work for Halo 4 was quite good and I didn't despise it like some other people seemed to. With some tweaks, a new coat of paint and an epic story they'll make Halo tops again. If they can pull of the right tweaks...Well we shall see I suppose.


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Comment #10 by Zenka The Myth
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:40:52 AM
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I thought the Halo 4 multiplayer was fine. Better than the shit Bungie left us with in Halo Reach, swan song, more like middle finger to the fans.


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Comment #11 by Nevander
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:41:08 AM
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Too easy to max progression? Fuck you. Now it's going to go back to the boring and tedious credit system.


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Comment #12 by phalanx 100
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 11:47:11 AM
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what halo 5 needs is to get back to being awesome, bashing hundreds of grunts with that gituar sound in the background wich makes your heart rate go up. after which your turning your xbox console off 3 hours after you wanted to. thats what halo is for me or atleast whas...


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Comment #13 by EmporerDragon
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 12:00:18 PM
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I just want Halo to feel like Halo, not Cod.


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Comment #14 by rjl champ rjl
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 12:00:53 PM
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I think they're on the right track.

Halo 4's multiplayer has improved alot after the last few updates.

Just don't add an all in one power rifle again(DMR).


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Comment #15 by Krovash
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 12:05:15 PM
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Halo 5 looks like the only legit reason to buy xbox one right now.


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Comment #16 by Ultamisia
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 12:05:19 PM
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no thanks, ill be playing Titanfall and Destiny


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Comment #17 by LeeJ2512
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 12:31:20 PM
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I say this as a long time Halo fan, having all Halos , even Halo Wars....but I fucking hated Halo 4...


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Comment #18 by I NiGhTmArEs I
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 12:47:38 PM
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loved halo 3 multiplayer played it for years if they recreated that i would buy halo 5


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Comment #19 by Dr Popodopolus
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 12:51:46 PM
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It's too late.

For me, Halo doesn't make me want the Xbox One as badly as Halo 3 made me want the Xbox 360 in '07


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Comment #20 by MUZE
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 12:55:09 PM
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They had it spot on with Halo 3 imo, simplicity at its finest.


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Comment #21 by Desobomber
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 01:04:59 PM
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I like that he took it upon himself to say that we have to do better. This is why this franchise is successful because they are accountable and they take it upon themselves to do better. Rather than blaming us the consumers for wanting too much.


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Comment #22 by KaptainKamal
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 01:21:10 PM
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Halo 3 had the best level design but Halo 4 had the best multiplayer in terms of putting you in matches that wouldn't drag out for too long. Unless your team quits on you. But teamwork made halo 4 a lot more fun for me. I do miss the weapons being scattered around the map rather than getting a weapon drop after scoring so many points


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Comment #23 by IXISHADOW
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 01:34:10 PM
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How about you fix the achievement glitch on Halo 4 first...


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Comment #24 by xxdiamondxxinfernoxx
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 01:34:40 PM
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@21 cannot agree more! Only company I know to say "our bad" instead of blaming the customers. They at least own up to their mistakes. Halo 4 was a let down but it was still a good game.been a huge fan since CE


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Comment #25 by blinksmilewink
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 01:48:19 PM
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Just go back to what made Halo 3 great.


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Comment #26 by Steakslave
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 01:50:57 PM
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343 did a really good job just not a great one. The game looked & sounded great and the controls & MP were like a world class counterfeit just not quite the Bungie magic we got used to. Halo got huge for a reason, but a short campaign with a QTE on the final boss and me-too CoD MP wasn't the reason. Here's hoping they knock it out of the park on Halo 5 and here's hoping they actually call it "Halo 5" and not something dumb.


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Comment #27 by RDWatson16
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 01:51:29 PM
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have halo 3 style mp and a longer campaign


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Comment #28 by CALIBORS
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 01:53:05 PM
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a few of the bad things about halo 4 multi player...

not enough maps/variety on disc, felt like they expected every one to buy the map packs.

& this might just be me, but every multi player match felt the same (halo players might have evolved to always use the same tactics? dunno but it feels a bit dull).



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Comment #29 by Viperous
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 02:21:31 PM
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Need to take scope down when you get shot - need arena style maps - need in game visible 1-50 true skill preferrably h2.


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Comment #30 by Zeppelin 856
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 02:23:34 PM
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@2

winner winner chicken dinner


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Comment #31 by crimson x
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 02:44:53 PM
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don't want players to progress so fast? don't let me stack a ton of double xp matches the very day the game starts. Hell i was max rank within a few weeks.


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Comment #32 by Mc1ovin11
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 02:48:45 PM
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Whilst i agree reaching the max MP level was too quick on Halo 4 everything else was great-i really enjoyed both the campaign and Spartan Ops and the versus MP was fine,much better than Reach-i think one person said it was CoD-like and then as usual people jumped on that bandwagon-i doubt half of them spent more than a couple of hours on the MP.

I have confidence 343 and the very honest and upfront Mr Bradley Welch,and am sure Halo 5 will be even better-like sequels should be.It may well be the title that makes me splash out on an Xbox One!!


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Comment #33 by GLiTcH
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 02:50:07 PM
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Go back to Halo 2 MP, no fucken cod type load outs. No need for a shit load of different armor. And did I say no perks. No assassination, we dont need that shit in here.


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Comment #34 by elKazaam
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 03:22:58 PM
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I liked the system from H3, that was good balanced, i think so.

I hope the story will be epic and the MP will be more fun and better weapon-balanced than in H4.
And please 343. make your own stuf, no COD clone or GOW or something else, that was the biggest and horrible mistake 343 made.


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Comment #35 by Yourburntstar
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 04:13:45 PM
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I can't wait for Halo 5, I've been loving my Xbox One thus far.

I also wish they would go back to Halo 2 Multiplayer because that is WHAT MADE THE GAME SO FUN.

We all love the single-player aspect, so I'm sure that will be just fine. but just please go back to Halo 2 Multiplayer.


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Comment #36 by Ereaser NL
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 04:22:38 PM
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@2 same here
And if not I'll buy one anyway xD


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Comment #37 by MissJaded
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 05:02:43 PM
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Reach was awesome. H4 Multiplayer was garbage, broken noobed up trying to be like COD. Story was stupid because of Cortana. I was super upset it was a sweet ending but just sucks. Hope they bring back Cortana somehow.

Just hope they make the multiplayer better. ALOT better.


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Comment #38 by MissJaded
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 05:08:26 PM
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Didn't even read that part a dedicated Server! That will make things so much better with connection specially in SWAT. Also would be sweet if they fixed the hit box. These two things would be great because red bar is stupid people eat like crazy.


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Comment #39 by Darkforce412
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 05:20:15 PM
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#1 agree the story didn't suck me in as much as the other halo games did, and live was great but felt too much like cod, which kept me from playing it.


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Comment #40 by AW Jadesniper
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 05:41:19 PM
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lol at these comments...It was to much like CoD? really......it had loadout OMG CoD garbage. Halo 4 was the first good Halo since Combat Evolved. Halo 2 SP was trash, but the MP was hella good. Halo 3 was terrible. Halo reach was meh. ODST....how does anyone even like that one, other than maybe firefight. People claim Bungie to be gods and that is hilarious. The only gods to gaming that I know are Ken Levine, Kojima, and ND (the last of us.) Still this is all just an opinion. Destiny does look great though, but only time will tell.


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Comment #41 by Akuza
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 06:03:27 PM
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Didn't they specifically state that the new Xbox one game isn't related to the current halo 4 storyline?


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Comment #42 by Elysiun
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 06:06:01 PM
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Reach style MP, don't do over priced map packs, and have Bungie style stat tacking.

On a side note, make an actual next gen game, not like how Halo 3 was at the start of this last gen. There is no reason that the next Halo game shouldn't be 1080p and run at 60 fps.


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Comment #43 by iBlaise
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 06:13:40 PM
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"Looking ahead to Halo 5, Welch offered some tantalising tidbits on what 343 Industries is shooting for. "Going to make whatever future 60fps, dedi server Halo we may make as awesome as possible to as many fans as possible." And as for multiplayer? "Let’s just say our internal MP team is much bigger than Halo 4.""

It's that paragraph that gives me doubt about the the rest of this series as a whole. Halo is not meant to run at 60 FPS; the reason it was so good was because it was a game where you had to pace yourselves and had to think tactically (unlike the run-and-gun CoD). I loved every Halo (including Reach), except for 4.

At this rate, I would rather them make a Halo 2 HD Anniversary over Halo 5, that would be the safer option and allow them to recover from their mistakes easier to better Halo 5. Because if Halo 5 is bad, I will not buy Halo 6.


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Comment #44 by Restricted-Access
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 06:22:58 PM
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@7
There WAS a Halo Special Edition (original) Xbox console! It was translucent green, which included a matching controller (with the name "Halo" in the crystal, not "XBOX")... and a copy of Halo: Combat Evolved. I still have my console, and it's pretty fricken sweet!

I would have gotten that "Halo 3" themed 360 console when those came out... if it had the biggest hard drive they made at the time (which was either a 60 GB or 120 GB), but MS was cheap and only included the 20 GB drive.

I didn't care for the look of that Halo Reach console (silver), and by the time that Halo 4 console released... I already bought the last 360 console I'll ever buy again - the Star Wars Xbox 360 bundle (which included a Kinect sensor that was only used once, and is currently disconnected)!

I'm sure that as soon as I buy an Xbox One (which won't be until early next year)... MS will release a collectible console that I'll want to buy - d'oh!


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Comment #45 by english bean
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 06:31:19 PM
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I liked halo 4 but but really hated how I can spend a fortune on dlc then never get to play them because its impossible to find a match where everyone owns all the packs.

I also don't mind MP achievements as long as they don't ruin the game ie get to rank 25, play on all maps etc what I hate is the ones you put in halo that just see s people doing stuff they shouldn't be to get them.


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Comment #46 by mentaljason
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 07:49:40 PM
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I gotta echo the people saying to go back to Halo 2 multiplayer. Halo 3 was good but none of the Halo's can touch H2. No need for these silly armor abilities/equipment or perks, just guns, grenades, and melee. But the top-notch Halo 2 maps just made every set of maps since feel terrible in my mind (but some good singular maps, don't get me wrong)


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Comment #47 by shooterking69
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 08:02:19 PM
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No thanks
After see how halo 4 went, I don't even want to bother with halo anymore


Viva law halo 3 mofos


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Comment #48 by Master Sieder
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 08:12:09 PM
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I think they should just pull there heads in and announce it and tell us if its halo 5 or some shit there making didn't mind halo 4 online I loved it not as much of the single player tho it just didn't feel like halo to me but then I guess I've only been playing halo since the 3rd one


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Comment #49 by keyblader2k6
Thursday, November 28, 2013 @ 08:22:43 PM
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im sorry but halo 4 has shown me that 343 cannot be trusted into making more halo games. for the record, i am all for change. its when that change(s) are VERY numerous, intensely drastic, and COMPLETELY in the wrong direction. no joke, i despise 4 so much that it (and the new gears of war judgement) totally turned me off into buying an xbox one and i was a huge fan of both series.


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Comment #51 by High Lord Sigma
Friday, November 29, 2013 @ 01:58:14 AM
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On the multiplayer end, the main issues at launch with the game were weapon balance, which was tweaked in a patch six months after launch, and the lack of good competitive maps. I mean, I like Ragnarok for BTB as much as the next guy, but Haven and maybe Solace being the only decent 4v4 maps for a while was annoying. This was a problem especially considering the great maps the previous games had, such as Hang 'Em High, The Pit, Guardian, and Warlock.

As for the cooperative side, the driving plot of Spartan Ops could have been much more compelling than it turned out to be. I think the reason for that lies in large part with the lack of compelling characters. Sarah Palmer has already been criticized thousands of times, so I'm not beating that dead horse. Lasky is the only new character who really has potential in my eyes. The missions themselves were also tedious and repetitive, especially when playing through them solo.

The campaign had a nice, slow-burning feel to it for the first few missions, but something about how it ended up resolving just didn't sit right with me. Maybe the problems have a lot to do with the lack of interesting characters outside the Chief, Cortana, and Lasky, but a lot of the middle levels just seem to drag a bit. I can remember the destruction of the Forward Unto Dawn, the landing on Requiem, and the awakening of the Didact almost perfectly, but most of the missions after the Chief meets up with the crew of the Infinity seem a bit forgettable.


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Comment #52 by Spartanic Ghost
Friday, November 29, 2013 @ 04:02:37 AM
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How about NO ranking system? If people wanna dick measure, let them do it with K/D like CoD kids do.

It's a real fucking tragedy that the last shooter series to have an enduring and profound story/campaign/universe, is soiling it's potential more and more with each title by shifting the focus more and more to multiplayer.

Can I just scream out a loud and resounding 'fuck multiplayer?' Or at least the hyper-competitive bullshit that people glue their try-hard helmets on for?

I want some serious fucking co-op attention. That's what I want. No fucking Bullshit Spartan Ops. An actual, squad based, story-integrated, co-op experience. Put the rest of blue team back on the battlefield, make Player 1 (single player) play as chief, and the other players can play as the three remaining members. It's too fucking perfect to ignore. They just need to nut up and actually fucking do it.


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Comment #53 by StickyFingers
Friday, November 29, 2013 @ 12:01:42 PM
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Take out the Call of Duty nonsense and look very very close to the campaign and MP of Halo3. That right there is a winner.


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Comment #55 by HolaOswaldo
Friday, November 29, 2013 @ 02:54:08 PM
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halo reach is the best ever. no other halo game will come close. noble team ftw.


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Comment #56 by Maximus MLG
Friday, November 29, 2013 @ 10:13:34 PM
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It's nice to see some people can take constructive criticism and use it, hats off to the Halo 5 team.


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Friday, November 29, 2013 @ 10:39:46 PM
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Comment #58 by Selfmadedude
Friday, November 29, 2013 @ 10:41:00 PM
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Looking forward to the next halo. I agree with many users I would enjoy more of a halo 2/3 feel for the game and the multiplayer. I feel like they understand that this is a critical time for the series so hopefully all will go well!


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Comment #59 by I R BFOG
Saturday, November 30, 2013 @ 03:14:03 AM
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Fuck multiplayer I just want Firefight to come back! Spartan Ops was so severely lacking in my opinion EG no scoring, medals, announcer, no skulls, no custom games, no theatre mode, no arcade gametypes with FRGs or launchers or 2xdamage, grunts are no longer funny and dont do random shit, knights unbelievably cheap! I love Firefight because it is equal parts challenging and fun, plus its just as fun solo or with up to 3 friends. It did not need a story! Reach was the best all round Halo for me since it has massive replayability. Also the controls, in particular the aiming were so much better than in Halo 4.

The only multiplayer gametype i liked in Halo 4 was Fiesta, which 343 (in their infinite wisdom) removed :( . Yes i know it was only for one day but come on, it was so much fun i thought they may have left it in. And to add insult to injury 343 ruined Reach's Firefight for me by removing doubles :/

They will have to do a lot to win back my trust and if all they're doing is talking about multiplayer then i'm already readying myself for disappointment.


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Comment #60 by HyogaCamus00
Saturday, November 30, 2013 @ 10:51:06 AM
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#52 You sir, deserve my respect.


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Comment #61 by cbssi
Saturday, November 30, 2013 @ 11:50:39 AM
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Halo's been in a state of transition for the past like 5 years. Halo 3 was the last undeniably solid installment. It'll be interesting to see if new hardware and a now-solid developer can revitalize Halo 5.


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Comment #64 by BrownCrusader
Sunday, December 01, 2013 @ 02:41:17 PM
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Hopefully Halo 5 is amazing, I thought Halo 4 was pretty good, maybe 343 will really step their game up with this one


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Comment #65 by DM HavoX
Sunday, December 01, 2013 @ 06:09:19 PM
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As a fanboy, I am looking forward to the next game, (hate if you want, its just my preference.) Halo 4 was good but not Halo Reach awesome (my favorite all around Halo game, 3 is a very close second).

Can we get some battlefield commander type setup for the next halo game? I would love to direct my teammates in an overhead view. Give the commander the ability to weapon drop and throw up waypoints for their teammates.

And I agree, bring back firefight!


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Comment #66 by Knaussenheimer
Monday, December 02, 2013 @ 10:44:19 PM
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@#2 so you're gonna get an xbox one.


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