Call of Duty: Black Ops
Gamescom 2010: Call of Duty: Black Ops Interview - Josh Olin, Treyarch Community Manager
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Following the launch of Infinity Ward's Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, which smashed every sales record known to man and went on to earn the title of “biggest entertainment launch of all time”, Treyarch is taking the reins of the CoD franchise once more having returned to World War II for World at War back in 2008.

This time though, the weight of expectation on the development studio is unprecedented, prompting Treyarch to shift the action to a new location and era in Vietnam, presenting the opportunity for a host of fresh deniable ops, an arsenal of new weaponryand more.

We caught up with Treyarch Community Manager, Josh Olin, at Gamescom last week to ask a few questions about Call of Duty: Black Ops and how the shadow of MW2 has influenced development. Find out what measures Treyarch is taking for Black Ops' multiplayer, the advantages of adopting a Hollywood approach for single-player, the game's new RC cars, zombies and much, much more.

First off, is there going to be a multiplayer beta for Black Ops?

It's possible. We're just not sure. We've had betas in the past, we know the value of a beta, we know the risks of a beta and we also know it's popular and that people like that, so if we do decide to do it and you want to be the first to know, follow the game on Twitter or via the Facebook page. Those are the best ways to get that information.

Do you think that betas are becoming more essential in this day and age? Modern Warfare 2 was criticised for its glitches and people exploiting the system, for instance.

I don't think they're critical. You're never going to get enough beta testing in-house and once the game is released, if a million people play one hour each game, the game's already got more testing than any QA (quality assurance) department can ever do and so some people might say that's a reason to have a beta. A lot of the hacks, glitches and exploits that were found with MW 2 weren't necessarily because it was a bad product or because it didn't have a beta. It was just because that's when all the console modding happened about a year, a year and a half ago. So, World at War was as vulnerable to those things, it just didn't seem nearly as prolific because Modern Warfare 2 was the game to play in 2009, right?

Console modding – and I don't want to get too into techno speak here – is basically hacking the system and then gaining access to system-level variables that developers never intended for people to have access to, and we always assumed we were safe because the platform was safe and secure, but it got cracked. With Black Ops, that's all behind us. We know how they did that, so we have worked in preventative measures for all the current-day modding geeks were using to exploit the Call of Duty games. Then moving forward of course, they're very intuitive, they're very creative, smart people, these hackers, so they'll probably find some way around the blocks and if they do we've built-in security tools to allow us to enforce our policies and moderate our leaderboards and lobbies, so it shouldn't be as big an issue with Black Ops.

Can you tell us roughly how many hours of gameplay the single-player campaign will have?

No, because it's just not done yet, but there is a sweet spot. We don't want the game to be too long, because then people lose their attention span and then they just never finish it. They put it down or by the time they get round to it, they can't remember how it started. So there's problems in having a game that's too long and of course the problem with having a game that's too short, is people will feel like they didn't get enough, but there is a sweet spot where you want people to feel like they want more, but they also feel like they experienced a great story. That's the sweet spot we're going to try to hit and whatever the length ends up as, we're going to try to tell the perfect story that we want to tell, with all the right pacing. Pacing a story is critical and that influences and is influenced by the length of the game.

The RC cars seem to detract slightly from the traditional Treyarch Call of Duty game, so how did they come about conceptually?

There are a lot of these really unique weapons that were made available to these Black Ops teams, so you see that in movies all the time where it's a camera attached to a car and it blows up, right? It's in Bad Boys 2 and plenty of movies do that sort of thing, and that does really happen. They do attach explosives to remote-controlled cars and that happens in war. They attach explosives to much worse things than RC cars, believe me. So, it was a fun way to do some vehicle elements in multiplayer and of course the Prestige Edition item that we made out of that - announced just last week – has a fully-functioning RC car - minus the explosives - that you'll be able to drive around and it has a 200-foot range and it wirelessly transmits video and audio back to the receiver, so it's the true surveillance vehicle.

Activision came to us and said that we're doing another Prestige Edition for Black Ops and we need to find something in the game that's cool, that people would want, so we toyed around with a lot of things. We were going to go with one of those little remote-controlled helicopters at one point, as there's a helicopter in the game, but it just wasn't as cool and we looked at the modified RC car we had in the game and thought this would be a cool toy. How many people would like to drive the car into another room and... Who knows the kind of nefarious purposes we're going to find for this car, but it should be interesting because it's got video. People can create all sorts of different viral videos with all that stuff.

Every year these editions seem to be getting progressively crazier, so how are you going to one-up Black Ops' remote-controlled car next time you make a Call of Duty?

That's a good question. Maybe we'll package explosives with it, I don't know. A working crossbow.

There's a lot of new stuff for multiplayer...

Yeah, there's definitely a lot of new stuff for multiplayer. There's a huge, huge new multiplayer mode that I can't talk about, but we'll reveal it on September 1st. I think people are going to be very surprised with what we unveil. They're not going to be expecting this deep a multiplayer, because frankly we've never had a dedicated multiplayer team like we've had on this project.

In 2008 when we made World at War, we worked on three blockbuster games that we released that same fall - Quantum of Solace, Spider-Man: Web of Shadows and World at War - so we had about 250 developers at Treyarch working on three games. Now we have all of our developers working exclusively on Black Ops, so fundamentally from day one, we've had a dedicated single-player team, dedicated multiplayer team and dedicated co-op team each focusing on their own discipline. It's kind of like having three games in one. If any one of those teams can ship a blockbuster title in 2008 and it's just one of three components in Black Ops, it's like, how big is this game going to be?
Will Black Ops' co-op be similar to World at War's?

It's four-player online co-op or two-player local splitscreen. That's pretty much all I can say, but it's going to be a fan favourite.

Will the World at War zombie maps packaged with the Hardened and Prestige editions be available in Germany this time?

To my knowledge, yes they will, but you'll probably want to verify that with your local PR. It's not Nazi Zombies any more, and I think that was the problem last time – the Nazi portion of that. So, even for World at War, the second map pack released for it had Shi No Numa and those were Japanese zombies, so it just didn't make sense to call it Nazi Zombies any more. So in the PR for the Hardened and Prestige zombie maps, we just call it World at War 'Zombies'. Shi No Numa will be one of those maps, and that has Japanese zombies in it too. It's not just German zombies now.
Do you think there's more pressure than ever to deliver now, given the success of Infinity Ward's Modern Warfare 2?

Yeah. The biggest entertainment launch in history, right? With every Call of Duty game, the goal is to ratchet that up more and raise the bar one level higher, so that's a big ratchet, but we're in a good position to do just that. But I've got to defer to you guys though to let us know if we've made a great game and ratcheted the bar up a level.

Do you think it's fair to say that Black Op's single-player is more Hollywood, with more explosions and action?
It's very cinematic, so in that sense, yeah. We're using technology for performance capture, which is the same as what James Cameron used for Avatar. We went to the same motion capture studio called the House of Moves in Los Angeles. So, we used that stuff and it's really the first First-Person Shooter to implement all of that technology, because it's all so new – it only came out about a year or so ago – we have that in the game and it's allowed our character's performances to really breathe on-screen. So, in that sense, again yes it's kind of like Hollywood where we're casting actors that can perform their movements, their facial expressions and their voice, all in one take. We've gone for actors with theatre backgrounds so they can really read well to the people at the back of the theatre.

It's impressive. The quality of the performances you get is really unlike anything you'll have seen before. I think in 'Victor Charlie', you might have seen a little bit of that where they come up out of the water and kill those two VC and they're searching the bodies and talking, and you have the syntax and just before you go in and plant the C4, that whole dialogue exchange where they're reading off each other and giving each other subtle nods and hand motions, all of those things are perfectly in-sync with the voice and face. Previously, with World at War where we had to record the voice and face separately from the body, some things would fire off slightly too soon and those little things do kind of flatten the performance, but we don't have that problem any more.
With so many powerful weapons at your disposal and the ability to fly a tooled-up helicopter, are we going to see more destructible environments in Black Ops?
Yeah. I think in Victor Charlie you probably saw that you can shoot a rocket at one of the buildings and the building sort of erupted. If you shoot the M202 (rocket launcher) across and take out the anti-aircraft gun, you'll probably blow up the building too. Those are cinematic set-pieces. We're not making it fully-destructible, it's just not what Call of Duty is. But any set-pieces where things should be destructible, they will be. It has to have that immersion, but we're not making a game where a grenade blows a fist-sized hole into something. There are other games for that. In Payback though, with the helicopter, everything is destructible. Everything. Every hut, every house, every pipeline, every bridge, every tree, because like I said, it's fun and it made sense that everything in that level should blow up.

Does it get hard making these action set-pieces, because you don't want to be repeating the same scenarios over and over?

Yeah, it does. That's part of why it was important to pick a genre and an era that was fresh and new, because we need to have these new things that we can do. And it's also really hard from a technical standpoint to keep making it bigger and badder, because the hardware isn't necessarily expanding when you look at the consoles. It takes a lot of mathematics back at Treyarch to re-factor all their engine technologies and processes to make those huge vistas and huge explosions that you saw in Payback. That was not an easy engineering feat.
So has the era freed you up a bit to take a few more liberties and go crazy?

Definitely. Purely from a black ops standpoint where those guys are CIA and all of those things that we're showing you were all deniable operations, so they're things you don't even know about, they were all classified. It gave us a lot more creative liberties. If you're creating a World War II game, you can't rewrite history and with World War II, most people know what did and didn't happen. With this one, not a lot of people know the stories, so it allowed us a lot more creative freedom.
Do you think that there's more of a need for authentic character performances, as people now seem to increasingly pick up on the most minor of details?
Yes. Especially in a game like Call of Duty where it's cinematic and it's not like a sandbox shooter. It's definitely a scripted game from start to finish, but people come to expect that from CoD. There are a lot of other story-driven games out there like Uncharted 2 that are really big, cinematic experiences as well, but I think it all depends on the kind of game you're looking at.

Can you tell us more about Black Ops' video editor, or is that another thing we'll see more of on September 1st?

That falls under the September 1st thing, but of course the teaser trailer has been ripped apart and dissected and right at the end, you guys accurately picked up that there's some sort of recording stuff in the game and I can just tell you that it's a big feature and you're going to learn a lot more about it on September 1st.

Were the Call of Duty subscription rumours frustrating for you guys?

That's why I diffused it when those rumours really started to get out of control and everybody started clamouring onto it, I just had to get a tweet out about it. So, I talked to our PR guys and they were like, “No. No no no no no. You do not have to pay to play Black Ops multiplayer. You buy the game, you put in the disc and you can play multiplayer all you want.”

Have you planned any downloadable content yet?

No, we're not planning it. We're going to support the game aggressively post-release and it's Call of Duty. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that we're going to do DLC, but there are no plans, nothing is confirmed yet, we don't know what's going to be in it. What we're doing right now is just heads-down, focusing on our number one priority to make sure what's in the box is the best possible thing we can make. The whole team is dedicated to that right now.

Is it at all possible that Black Ops will support DLC for the game's other modes outside multiplayer?

Anything is possible. With World at War we did co-op stuff as well, so that's another possibility. There's a lot of stuff we could do through DLC, but who knows what the future holds with that.

Going back to the subscription stuff for a minute, a lot of analysts are saying that it might be a viable business option to charge for multiplayer in the future. Do you see that happening in the future from a personal standpoint?

I think it's happening already. I mean, you look at Xbox Live and PlayStation Plus, that's what you do, you've got to subscribe to that service in order to play the game online. It works differently for the PC of course, but that stuff already exists and I think at the end of the day, where the corporate guys decide where that money is going to go doesn't matter. We're here to make a great game at Treyarch, and at the end of the day, the consumer ultimately isn't going to care who is getting what cut of the money, the point is they have to subscribe. Subscribing to use a service, to get a service is nothing new and is something that exists right now.

What's your personal opinion on EA's 'Project Ten Dollar' initiative to combat sales of used games?

It'll be interesting to see how it works. Used games do pose a problem to the development community. As we become more and more prolific and our industry grows, I think we need to have more standards and policies in place to ensure that the creative authors of that content are paid their dues.

Do you think that Activision and Treyarch will ever introduce something similar?

Not for Black Ops. I'm sure somebody at Activision is looking into that. It's a big business decision, but we're just looking to make games. It's a very compartmentalised process to be honest. Activision does their thing and they do their thing really well - the publishing and marketing stuff – but I like to think that we do our thing pretty well too, which is just making games.

How are pre-orders for Call of Duty: Black Ops?
They're really strong actually. They're outpacing Modern Warfare 2's pre-orders. We're outpacing every other Call of Duty's pre-orders to date. There's still months to go before release, so of course the total number is going to get bigger. At this point in every Call of Duty's release cycle we're ahead in pre-orders though.
That must be pretty exciting...

It is. Yes, it is. We really like to see that!
Call of Duty: Black Ops is due for release on November 9th, 2010.


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Comment #1 by Elite Ranger
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 11:54:59 AM
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Comment #2 by CheesyToast111
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:01:09 PM
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Seems kind of late to bring out a beta, if they did.
More excited about the return of Zombies than the multiplayer anyway.

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Comment #3 by MadRaver81
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:08:59 PM
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Same old shit...different name

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Comment #4 by Jleek1992
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:11:05 PM
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This game looks awsome i am saving for it and as soon as its out i am heading to the shops early in the morning and getting it.

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Comment #5 by EPD93
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:13:33 PM
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@3 halo fanboy. This game is going to blow Reach out of the water.

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Comment #6 by MadRaver81
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:15:37 PM
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@5 hardly play halo. Get your facts right!

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Comment #7 by Nozza XBA
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:16:19 PM
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Nice interview and I do wonder what Sept 1st will bring.. quite exciting!

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Comment #8 by ROME To Ya DOME
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:17:08 PM
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I can't wait.....

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Comment #9 by xXBoomshot475Xx
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:18:47 PM
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Pre ordered prestige edition yeah

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Comment #10 by Elit3 m0nkey
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:19:42 PM
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"...but there are no plans, nothing is confirmed yet, we don't know what's going to be in it." Good. I don't want to hear about DLC until a few months after a game comes out.

Still getting this but my expectations aren't as high as MW2

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Comment #11 by GreatGaming88
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:21:28 PM
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This game looks good

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Comment #12 by LemonMeringueTy
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:29:15 PM
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MW2 has garbage multiplayer, so much shit wrong with it. Here's to hoping Treyarch know what the community want.

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Comment #13 by xMidget_Furyx
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:32:10 PM
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Modern warfare 2 was a good game until the MP was ruined by stupid hackers. way to go guys!

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Comment #14 by RenegadeSniper7
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:39:00 PM
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"How are pre-orders for Call of Duty: Black Ops?

They're really strong actually. They're outpacing Modern Warfare 2's pre-orders. We're outpacing every other Call of Duty's pre-orders to date. There's still months to go before release, so of course the total number is going to get bigger. At this point in every Call of Duty's release cycle we're ahead in pre-orders though."

Complete lie, check vgchartz.

Black Ops has 225 000 as of this week. MW2 has 1.2 million by this point.


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Comment #15 by xdiamondxinfernox
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:39:43 PM
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ha all they care about is their money. only reason it will sell well is due to it being completely overhyped.
@5, halo always has been and always will be a better game than call of duty due to bungie caring about their community and changing things in their game.

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Comment #16 by RenegadeSniper7
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:45:49 PM
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Wait, will anyone buy Black Ops? We'll all be jacking off to Reach at that point...

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Comment #17 by Mighty Goliath89
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:50:49 PM
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nice looking forward to seeing what this "Huge new multiplayer mode is" roll on september the 1st :D.

Glad to see they are making steps to getting rid of glitchers and hackers on the multiplayer always loved call of duty multiplayer *bar the over powered kill streaks on MW2 xD* and MW2 multiplayer was tolerable until all the hackers and glitchers took over.

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Comment #18 by elephantd
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 12:53:39 PM
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I acutally like DLC ASAP. I have gamer ADD and I don't stick around a game for too long.

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Comment #19 by MarcoPolo 360
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 01:01:04 PM
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I think Treyarch can make Black OPs the best Call of Duty game since COD 4. Im trying not to overhype it, but I think its going to be a good game. I personally liked World at War better than Modern Warfare 2. Time will only tell, cant wait till September 1.

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Comment #20 by H0p3sfalL
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 01:03:42 PM
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good interview. Still will be a rent for me though.

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Comment #21 by TpYourHouse
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 01:24:54 PM
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Getting Black Ops and Reach, both going to be great titles.

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Comment #22 by Hobbes.
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 01:28:26 PM
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its so cool that they havent already developed 82 pieces of new dlc before the game comes out like so many other companies. and they dont really need a beta cause MW2 was their beta

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Comment #23 by TpYourHouse
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 01:37:20 PM
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@14 MW2 @ 12 Weeks to launch in the Americas on all systems (360, PS3, PC) had 603,000 pre orders. BO @ 12 Weeks to launch on all systems in the Americas (360, PS3, I couldn't find info on PC pre-orders so no PC here) has 619,000 so Black Ops is beating MW2.

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Comment #24 by Or!on
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 01:40:09 PM
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Looking at the video for multiplayer, Black Ops looks, Idk, it kinda looks cheap?

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Comment #25 by Launch
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 01:40:56 PM
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At least Treyarch seems to know what they're doing, and I'm glad there doesn't seem to be any on the disc DLC.

Still, probably not a day one buy for me, I'll be playing Reach. I'll give it a go eventually.

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Comment #26 by JuiceboxHero
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 01:44:54 PM
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so many good games coming out. Reach, Black ops, new vegas, gears 3, hot pursuit... ugh my wallet is going on a diet.

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Comment #27 by Cdmaster188
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 02:17:15 PM
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Nice read I already preordered mine cant wait to see what they have in store for us on september 1 ^_^

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Comment #28 by ONI recon 111
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 02:28:33 PM
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Haha, i'd buy the prestige edition for a working crossbow :)

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Comment #29 by NathanVoiles
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 02:33:22 PM
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anything will be better than MW2

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Comment #30 by harry
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 02:34:57 PM
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The only good cod game was cod4 u stupid people , ahahahhaha halo reach is guna piss all over this!

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Comment #31 by The Bum-Mobile
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 02:35:23 PM
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Absolutely can't wait. I do want to see this "Victor Charlie" level though! I've heard so much about it, I've even heard that the WA2000 (My personal favorite gun and the reason I continued playing Modern Warfare 2!) is in it! Man, that'd just make the game for me right there.

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Comment #32 by waterhead71
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 02:39:49 PM
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I am actually more interested in this game thanks to this interview. Very interesting and nice works and I love CoD so them changing a few things up seems like a good move to me.

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Comment #33 by i got squeezed
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 03:16:01 PM
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Treyarch is busting their ass to make this game the best of CoD's, once I read that they were focusin their ideas on the game, thats when I had a smile on my face. DLC can come last all I care, sounds like this might blow MW2 out of the water, BUT MW2 is still my baby and I'm a cod fan boy so stfu. Guess we'll have to wait and see 11.9.10 to get here. MIDNIGHT LAUNCH!!!!

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Comment #34 by Inked and Pierced
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 03:19:05 PM
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god i cannot wait for this game. now only time will tell which game will occupy more of my time Black Ops or Halo Reach???

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Comment #35 by Ax7 BEAST
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 03:34:06 PM
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@5 reach already has more preorders than black ops will have copies sold at all

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Comment #36 by tigersrule
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 03:46:21 PM
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@3 Same shit, different troll.

"Yeah, there's definitely a of new stuff for multiplayer." Isn't that supposed to be a lot, or did he really say that?

OT: Can't wait for Black Ops!!!! Glad to see they will be dealing with the modding problem, unlike Infinity Ward....

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Comment #37 by eatingforthree
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 04:01:01 PM
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so if you're a halo fanboy, what the fuck are you doing on the black op page? get out of here and play with your little needle shooters. homos

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Comment #38 by OneNiqht
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 04:14:07 PM
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Halo reach is garbage i see no different between halo3 and reach all there is in reach is how long are you going to play that for 3-4 hrs???BOWRING

Black ops looks funn and exciting, black ops even has more featured modes in it instead of Reach.. so ye...GO BLACKOPS

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Comment #39 by Spinal420
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 04:14:36 PM
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@19 agreed..i think they are going to redeam them self with this one cuz everyone wants them to like iv been saying everyone is still gonna get this game even if they trash talk it no matter what its a fucken awsome game...i hate to admit it but reach will be a stronger game due to the fact that they actualy revamped they game up to a nice 20210 editon comparede to COD going more a NHL, NFL route on minor still rooting for you Treyarch you got this....@22 LMFAO so truwe MW2 is their beta for this game they learned more then an acctual beta can ever dish out..

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Comment #40 by wardy 4
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 05:02:34 PM
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fuckin awesome bloody love cod, have got the whole collection 2,3,4,W.A.W,MW2 and now black ops definite buy, and halo they are 2 completely different games stop bloody bickering cant we all just get along lol

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Comment #41 by AToMiiK
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 06:21:39 PM
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I am looking forward to this game and i really want to see how these "preventative measures for all the current-day modding geeks" and the "security tools to allow us to enforce our policies and moderate our leaderboards and lobbies" work and if they even succeed in minimising the troubles that MW2 has/had at all *fingers crossed* but i can't help but think that halo reach will have my undivided attention as CoD has become a bit stale for me recently and i haven't played halo 3 since december (i think)it will hold my attention longer.... but then again who knows what will come up on September 1st....

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Comment #42 by JakeyMcGee12059
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 06:36:44 PM
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''We don't want the game to be too long, because then people lose their attention span and then they just never finish it.''

So they're catering for people with a 12 year old's attention span?

Sounds about right..
They aren't really winning me over.

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Comment #43 by Ep1c Pwnd
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 06:43:20 PM
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I wasn't gonna buy this game unless there is something diffrient in multiplayer LIKE ACHIEVEMENTS. 500 for Campaign 500 for Multiplayer ex. Prestige, Avatar awards for using the vechile. And for the DLC have them like - Get a 7 kill streak on this map

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Comment #44 by xKMARTKILLER
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 07:15:05 PM
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@3 if its outpacing every CoD ever including mw2 which out sold halo 3 in total sales in less than a year. There's no possible way reach will out sell Black Ops...And if all you haters, hate CoD so much why are reading up on it? Also it doesn't matter if a few hundred people out of 4.7 million or more(The total of pre-orders of mw2) hate Black Ops they don't care

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Comment #45 by seven43861
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 08:17:59 PM
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Great interview, lots of great questions asked and answered.

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Comment #46 by DaChiefOfOwnage
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 08:27:45 PM
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@38, saying there is no difference between Halo 3 and Reach is like saying there is no difference between a cat and a dog. You're either blind or you're stupid. Or both?

And before all the fucking fanboys try shit with me, I love BOTH Call of Duty AND Halo so suck on it.

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Comment #47 by B0rnP3ac3mak3r
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 09:11:17 PM
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@38 Please learn how to spell before you rage. Anyways, COD5 was shit compared to COD4, but I wish the best for Black Ops (I hated MW2 SO MUCH). On the flip side, Halo Reach is going to be awesome. And another thing to complete my message, WE ARE ALL PROUD 360 OWNERS!! Get along and maybe we will land sweet new IPs like Uncharted, then we'll see who has the game of the year then..

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Comment #48 by burningreaper
Monday, August 23, 2010 @ 09:25:28 PM
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When I read the headline I was worried this would turn into a CoD vs. Halo flame war. Glad to see maturity won out and everyone is keeping this a civil debate.

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Comment #49 by kristoff
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 12:09:59 AM
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@24 agreed not getting this. The game looks like it is going to reward camping.

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Comment #50 by EMP
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 12:48:51 AM
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Whatever they put thats new in the game i don't care it needs a beta people will find ways to bullshit others in some shape, size or form..

Either way i've ben pleased with every other cod game so why not this one...

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Comment #51 by EMP
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 12:53:12 AM
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@ 43 screw online achievements that just gives people the idea to boost them, I actually wanna play multiplayer that is normal, not play the game and join some gay ass game where johnny sits in the corner and jimmy kills him 7 times in a row for a little 10G's come on.......

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Comment #52 by ooh ahh mcgrath
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 01:55:32 AM
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@51 agreed,i hate MP achievements,they ruin the game,the titles and callsigns will do anyway,as long as u cant boost them in a cage match.

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Comment #53 by MadRaver81
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 02:27:31 AM
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@38 Learn to spell dumbarse!

There isn't that much you can call new in it. oooo RC car...thats been done before!

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Comment #54 by Stoner Steve619
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 03:17:57 AM
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sweet! i'll definatly play this sometime in the future

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Comment #55 by Krovash
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 04:18:45 AM
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Its really cool they have their whole team working on a single game. I really hope this one turns out better than MW2.

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Comment #56 by ilzy
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 04:29:09 AM
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I just hope there will be more Zombie maps released after the initial release of the game, or at least have more modern weapons, possibly bigger map for Nacht Der Untoten w/ perks?? :)

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Comment #58 by xX BanKsy
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 10:07:14 AM
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hasn't sold me. looks like same old same old, however i will probably play it becuase i share an xbox with my little brother who plays nothing but call of duty. FIFA 11 is where it's at for me.

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Comment #59 by Blah 2k
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 11:27:06 AM
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Wonderful interview Dan. This game is going to kick the shit out of Reach in sales. Hands down. Eat your heart out Halo fanboys.

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Comment #60 by spookyblade
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 03:50:37 PM
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@59 nicely said and well done treyarch for actually caring about your games u bring out unlike modern warfare, and don't let activision get in your way by overpricing everything!!

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Comment #63 by Axel Desade
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 07:54:27 PM
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Nice to see how mature the gaming community is these days.

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Comment #64 by shreck232
Tuesday, August 24, 2010 @ 08:50:39 PM
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i like this competition between halo reach and black ops its only gonna make each game better no matter who wins and i hav both preordered anyway

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Comment #65 by xSASx REAPER
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 @ 05:17:37 AM
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all i have to say is why do halo fanboys come to the Call Of Duty Black Ops thread just to cause negative problems do you see us call of duty fanboys going to a halo reach page and saying "this game sucks call of duty black ops is going to piss on this game" no you dont now if you have anything negative to say about call of duty black ops GO TO YOUR MOTHER AND CRY ABOUT OK CRY TO SOMEONE WHO GIVES A DAMN ABOUT GAYLO REACH whats so good about master chief he can suck my dick Captain Price shits on master chiefs face and then fucks his wife in the ass and yes im talking about that blue girl i think her name was cortana or something so there and yes xbox rules and ps3 sucks we all know and o yea CALL OF DUTY BLACK OPS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Comment #66 by CaptainCaterpie
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 @ 07:50:03 AM
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Black Ops will be big. No doubt about that. Will it be as big on the 360 as Reach is going to be? Maybe not. It doesn't matter, they're both AAA titles, which is great for the industry. People should stop arguing about the both of them.

Can't wait until the 1st of September.

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Comment #67 by xX CamsteR Xx
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 @ 08:43:59 AM
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Hope it's better than MW2

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Comment #68 by DocRevolt
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 @ 09:54:00 AM
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@3 BF:BC2 fanboy then.

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Comment #69 by MadRaver81
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 @ 10:28:41 AM
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@68 I play everything. Its becoming a broken record...half of the problems with MW2 were nothing to do with Jtag modding! Bad shitty coding..will they fix it...ummm no because they already have your money!

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Comment #70 by xThe Governator
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 @ 10:51:18 AM
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gona be awsum and i think the co op mode is somthing to do with area 51 ... cant wait to find out . hope they have a beta ..

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Comment #71 by Garbim BR
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 @ 12:54:10 PM
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Looks pretty nice to me.

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Comment #72 by ViNyLek
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 @ 01:17:06 PM
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Not sure why ppl are complaining about MW2 campaign, I thought it was like some action packed movie, you actually get to play. Loved it and think storywise it was one of the best games ever. I always thought Treyarch;s game were better online though and campaign followed closely behind so definitely will be picking this up day one.

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Comment #73 by expletiveinherXBOX
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 @ 01:59:45 PM
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lets just hope it is better then any other treyarch game they were all crap I might wait for this one to come down in price and pick it up for 29 bucks used or something instead of paying full price been to disappointed with previous gayarch games kinda done with the whole call of duty franchise now most of my time will be spent playing medal of honor anyways

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Comment #74 by sHo0tTh3sMiLyZz
Wednesday, August 25, 2010 @ 06:54:27 PM
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@70 that would be awesome

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Comment #75 by MARCOUXqc
Thursday, August 26, 2010 @ 12:22:40 AM
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Gonna stick with REACH and New Vegas for this fall, such better games that give so much more back to the fans (15 bucks for 4 maps that were already in cod 4, what a waste of money, Activision are sucking the money out of all those persons pockets who should experience better games). IW and Activision suck compared to companies like EPIC, BUNGIE, Bethesda and Ubisoft (because of Uni Montreal). No one can deny that

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Comment #76 by Floodgates
Thursday, August 26, 2010 @ 05:45:46 AM
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Finally! No more infected lobbies and modded crap. Big ups to Treyarch! Will definently purchase this.

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Comment #77 by OllyKiriyama
Thursday, August 26, 2010 @ 10:08:32 AM
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I'll get this with my christmas money, I spent all my money on Dead Rising 2 and Fallout: New Vegas.

Treyarch are doing a good job though, looking forward to September 1st.

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Comment #78 by tylercsmith
Thursday, August 26, 2010 @ 09:18:43 PM
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Black Ops will be awesome.

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Comment #79 by mentalmac95
Thursday, August 26, 2010 @ 10:44:13 PM
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Do u need the Hardened and Prestige editions of Call Of Duty Black Ops to have the new zombie maps when they come out because im only able to get the original version? please can somebody help me with this question x

p.s - halo sucks donkey d**k and xbox 360 rules over the ps3 :)

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Comment #80 by MARCOUXqc
Friday, August 27, 2010 @ 12:12:34 AM
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@ 38 Just shut up and go play MW2. Cod is always the same shit exept for cod 4. Halo as evolved over the years, nothing in reach is similar in past games.

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Comment #81 by rickyfeeney
Friday, August 27, 2010 @ 04:51:24 AM
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i like MW2. i have played it alot. there are major problems with it though. it still remains a good game. i played the reach beta and it looks promising. i think both games will be good. everyone moans at eachother yet i reckon most of these people play the same games.

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Comment #82 by fax5jrj
Friday, August 27, 2010 @ 10:25:37 AM
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I know that Reach will not only effect the sales of this game dramitaclly, but it will be a better game overall. If anyone disagrees, than actually look online.

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Comment #83 by fax5jrj
Friday, August 27, 2010 @ 10:40:46 AM
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@81, do you realize the variety of games I play? Halo is still better. I hardly even play it anymore, so don't shove the fanboy thing in my face.
@68 Battlfield: Bad Comapany 2 is an amazing game, online and campaign alike. Don't you dare insult it. Not a fanboy of that either.

BTW I will be getting this, but COD fanboys make me mad, when they stick up for the most terrible game of 2009, MW2. I'm just glad that we can all agree that COD4 was the best.

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Comment #84 by Jleek1992
Monday, August 30, 2010 @ 08:39:07 AM
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Today i had this game planned it was will i get it for christmas or release date decided release date i am getting it on as its the most orginal time to get it and i really can't wait for it.

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Comment #85 by angelusanya78
Monday, August 30, 2010 @ 10:01:35 AM
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Both Halo Reach and this look fantastic... I think it will be interesting to see if all the claims they are making are held up this time. No matter what will be buying (once I have completed Reach that is lol).

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Comment #86 by Treyarch
Tuesday, August 31, 2010 @ 01:09:25 AM
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Thank you guys, for supporting us.


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Comment #87 by DrawnMasterAim
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 06:19:47 PM
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I've played cod classic ,cod 2,cod world at war,cod 4, and cod mw2 but cod black ops is awesome I saw the trailer have to give game 5 gold stars what ever video game company made this game u da best

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