PAX 2010: Developer Walkthrough: Xbox Live on Windows Phone 7
Written Thursday, September 09, 2010 By Dan Webb
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When Microsoft announced their Windows Phone 7, I - and no doubt many others - went... "What? cheevos on the go?"

If the first thing you said to that is, "Dammit Webb, it's achievements, not cheevos!" Don't worry, one day you'll be cool enough to recognise the awesomness that is the word cheevos.

I digress...

We caught up with Michael Klucher at this year's PAX, who is the lead program manager of the XNA Game Studio regarding Xbox LIVE on Windows Phone 7, who was kind enough to give us a walkthrough of what we can expect.

In short, Xbox Live on the go: games, your avatar and a whole lot of awesome. Our first impressions you ask? "When does my iPhone contract run out?" But seriously, if it's compatible with iTunes for instance, they could have themselves a new customer.

Of course, the phone models are just as important and the range supporting the new system are yet to be confirmed, although the Samsung i8700 (which is said to support it) appeared to leak on Engadget today. Now that is one hot phone!

For more info, and a look at the first wave of titles, head over to After you've watched this of course.


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Comment #1 by COSMIC SAMURAI
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:04:29 PM
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Interesting, If only i had a phone

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Comment #2 by Cyler12
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:05:31 PM
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i want that so bad

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Comment #3 by Rjk117
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:05:44 PM
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Yea this could take my IPhones place.

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Comment #4 by Basketballgaz
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:09:56 PM
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WOW! This is actually looking really great =)

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Comment #5 by Minty
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:10:06 PM
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@3 Agreed. If this supports Mac OS X and/or iTunes, I'm sold. Was a gorgeous phone.

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Comment #6 by georgeous123
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:10:27 PM
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Comment #7 by AlecArticuno
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:18:09 PM
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Ehhhhhhhh. Neopets did the same thing a hella long time ago. That didnt pick up too well nor do i think this will either.

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Comment #8 by Epic Gamer Will
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:23:22 PM
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Cheevos!!!! FTW!!!!

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Comment #9 by Never Final
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:40:19 PM
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That phone was HUGE! What phone was that? Its almost the size of a psp it looks like.

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Comment #10 by Hughesy9
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:43:04 PM
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The main screen at the very start is ugly, I know thats quite trivial but it would annoy me over an 12/18 month contract.

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Comment #11 by b10gg5
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:45:29 PM
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@ #5 it will support zune first and foremost. it might have an app f
or itunes, but that would be some deal between Windows and apple. the begining of world domination maybe.

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Comment #12 by Webb [STAFF]
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:46:03 PM
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@#9 - Ha ha, it was the size of a normal phone... Pssssst, we were zooming in =P

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Comment #13 by Gorjira
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:46:12 PM
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It looked a bit unresponsive. He had to scroll a few times in order to get to the next screen.

I don't like that.

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Comment #14 by lemlem360
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:54:22 PM
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Hope this will be available in Canada before this Christmas

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Comment #15 by JGar77
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 06:56:26 PM
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I guess this is sort of the long delayed response to the Nintendo DS and the Sony PSP. I think it looks great, its a marvelous idea. Catering to cell phones nullifies the limitation that would have been a handheld console. Unfortunately, I don't care much for touch screen cell phones, and, in fact, have a cell phone simply as a modern necessity rather than a social tool (I have a Samsung SCH-u430, def not the best, but it gets the job done). I guess, then, that I will be missing out on this. But again, it is a good idea and I hope that the people who get to experience it will enjoy it. :)

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Comment #16 by Kroesis
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:03:39 PM
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I don't travel about enough to warrant getting a new phone, hell my current one hasn't been topped up in over a year... It's just a glorified alarm clock. I think I can live without mobile 'cheevos' for the time being. Give me a phone with free facebook access and I'll have free communication with my mates and family.

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Comment #17 by SaiSpag
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:06:19 PM
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Loooooad tiiiiime iisssss slooooow

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Comment #18 by KalVerd
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:06:20 PM
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To be honest i don't know if this is worth it. I can see some benefits from having access to my profile so i can message friends or showing someone what achievements i have. And having arcade games to play from my phone that effect my gamer-score but at the same time when im out and about im not really gonna be bothered to mess around with my profile. Why would you really want to change your avatars outfit while picking up some milk or waiting for a bus i think overall its a bit of a waste of time but thats just my opinion.

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Comment #19 by sumthingchronic
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:08:17 PM
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My only concern with this is what's the battery power like? Especially when playing games.

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Comment #20 by RedDragon4275
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:09:30 PM
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I am so getting this phone. I've been psyched about it.

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Comment #21 by SaiSpag
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:10:04 PM
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@16 literally every phone has free facebook access...

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Comment #22 by Beachem
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:16:41 PM
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Sweet! Now I can unlock achievements at work and in school lol. This phone could be a huge distraction for me...I want it so bad!

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Comment #23 by dwmacfar2
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:18:05 PM
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I will be getting this phone when I have the cash. I need a new phone, and everything I've seen on the phone is truly amazing.

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Comment #24 by DarqStalker
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:29:08 PM
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For months I've wanted some sort of good xbox live app for my iPhone where I could see my avatar and achievements, etc, etc. Now I know why they haven't come out with one, b/c Microsoft have been busy working on their own, and it'll prob be proprietor to windows phones.

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Comment #25 by SuperWoody64
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:30:17 PM
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here's an idea MS, make the games available on the Droid marketplace. I'm not switching from Verizon for any phone and I seriously doubt they'll have apps like the Droid phones do. I have the ZuneHD32gb and there's like 12 apps available.

Or, or, or...make this program available for the zune HD! Then I can have it and a Droid phone!

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Comment #26 by GORQITO
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:36:34 PM
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Whaaat that is insane! I so want that phone after I'm done with my current one. I just hope it will be available in Canada soon.

Although I kinda agree with #10 that the main interface could look better.

Would there be any costs to use the Xbox live service for the phone?

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Comment #27 by Dr Popodopolus
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:37:48 PM
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Android > Microsoft.

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Comment #28 by mjc0961
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:47:20 PM
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Sony made this to give Move a one-up over Kinect, but I think it still applies here.

Seriously, what makes them think I want to play with my fingers blocking half the screen? They should have strived to make it better than the iPhone, not just the same shit in a different wrapper.

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Comment #29 by DeafSunchaser
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 07:51:10 PM
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needs to know the price! if its over 250 i wont bother and buy iphone4

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Comment #30 by Wehttam
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 08:06:59 PM
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Wait a second, this whole time i thought microsoft had actually made a phone called windows phone 7 not just an operating system for a samsung phone.

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Comment #31 by dementedlullaby
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 08:20:29 PM
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Can the phone be used as a wifi device for internet on the go.

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Comment #32 by StillTIPPIN187
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 08:32:40 PM
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Hate the word cheevos.

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Comment #33 by TacticalTodger
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 08:38:44 PM
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Fuck Itunes and Iphones and Ipos and Itouches and Ipads. Apple sucks.. Microsoft over Apple...I've not a good experience with Apple...Chevos on the go ftw!

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Comment #34 by CONKER1182
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 08:57:38 PM
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Apple for its iPhone is copying Xbox 360 with it`s achievements now and has points just like gamerscore.

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Comment #35 by Bezzina82
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 09:05:37 PM
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@#24 - There is an app for iPhone called 360 live. In it you can view cheevos, send and recieve messages, check out who of your friends is online away or offline. You can also view their cheevos. It's got a cool interface and when you turn your iPhone on the side it displays all your friends avatars and their gamercard. The only things it doesn't have that windows phone 7 has is the ability to earn cheevos, and you can't change what your avatar is wearing. Also the games that are coming out on launch for windows 7 don't look that great. Hopefully they get a company like gameloft to make games for it. Imo they make the best mobile phone games.

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Comment #36 by Elit3 m0nkey
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 09:43:23 PM
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@14 I Know. I need a phone and I want this one. I really don't care who the carrier is.

It has achievements, that is all the convincing I need to get this if it does come to Canada

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Comment #37 by stophj
Thursday, September 09, 2010 @ 11:16:43 PM
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Damnit Webb stop saying... nevermind I'm not going to say it

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Comment #38 by mrvtec10
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 12:34:49 AM
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Bah no keyboard=no buy touch screen txting pisses me off

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Comment #39 by Aussie27Legend
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 12:35:31 AM
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Hope they actually RELEASE THE FUCKING THING IN AUSTRALIA (I'm looking at you Zune)

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Comment #40 by SSJ4 Link
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 12:49:27 AM
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Can't wait. Thanks for posting this.

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Comment #41 by Delboy06eu
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 01:04:44 AM
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Webb, me knew bout the "cheevo's" for time bruva lol

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Comment #42 by Darkdefiler84
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 02:21:13 AM
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Who in the fuck would want it to be compatible with itunes? How absolutely noob-ish

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Comment #43 by Pieville
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 02:21:24 AM
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This does look interesting but I'll just stick with my iPhone.
If they make a deal with Apple, to allow iPhones/iPods have Xbox Live & Achievements.
Then come talk to me.

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Comment #44 by Blue Thunder28
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 02:55:31 AM
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LOVE the Zune like interface.. Beautiful. Can't wait to get my hands on this beauty.

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Comment #45 by macd
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 04:04:47 AM
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If it runs XBLA games, which I doubt a phone could do, I'd buy it in an instant. Play more Defense Grid!

My contract is up in 6 months, so still got a way before I need to decide.

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Comment #46 by Webb [STAFF]
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 04:32:12 AM
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@#42 - Yeah, cause wanting it to be compatible with a program that I use to store/sort my music is beyond comprehensible. Oh my, how "noob"ish of me.

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Comment #47 by Elit3 m0nkey
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 05:39:39 AM
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@14 and @39: Did some searching, and according to MS you will be able to buy apps in both Canada and Australia. I am assuming that means that it will launch in those countries.

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Comment #48 by Joshi 82 AT
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 06:05:47 AM
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Does it make me old when I simply use my phone to call friends?

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Comment #49 by Kroesis
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 06:40:44 AM
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@21 Yes.. except for mine. So when I bother getting a new phone shall I go and get a windows phone 7 enabled device or just a bog standard phone with facebook access? I'll probably not get the windows phone. A fancy mobile phone just isn't important to me right now.

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Comment #50 by Astrex
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 07:02:32 AM
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I want it to be compatible with a mac, if it isn't I won't be buying it.

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Comment #51 by Tcaps8
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 07:13:08 AM
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ill just get this phone and cancel the iphone lol. i mean i could still use the apps on the iphone i had wifi

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Comment #52 by TacticalTodger
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 08:01:32 AM
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@#46 Well iTunes sucks, yes you download music with the program. But still it's resricted to iTunes only you can't use with WMP, IF you don't have all the songs you had on your playlist before hand all songs are erased or were a while ago. With other MP4's they have a file system where you can use sync a song or two where you don't need the previous songs. my reason why it's noobish could go on..

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Comment #53 by Bash Callihoo
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 08:48:58 AM
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Phones are lame. Me and my friend agreed if we need to be contacted we could be reached on Xbox LIVE. And yes that is also on our resumes.

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Comment #54 by Minty
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 09:08:44 AM
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@42 @46 Well people with Macs cant install Zune without running Dual Boot...and I'm not gonna run Windows everytime I want to sync my phone. The large market share of their target audience uses iPhones, therefore already has all their music in iTunes...therefore likely won't switch if they have to swap all that.

Most people can figure out that iTunes comapatability will have a big impact on sales figures.

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Comment #55 by IAMTHEBISHOP
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 10:17:10 AM
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I hate cell phone but if i can get achievement with the phone im sold

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Comment #56 by Webb [STAFF]
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 11:04:04 AM
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@#52 - iTunes has been DRM free for quite some time now.

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Comment #57 by Kisushima
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 11:25:47 AM
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I haven't had a phone in almost 2 years. My mum said she was willing for me to get one soon. Hello.. ;D..

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Comment #58 by TacticalTodger
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 11:47:40 AM
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@#56 Ahhh well I haven't used it for that long XD maybe I should give it another try.

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Comment #59 by ViNyLek
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 12:41:19 PM
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I really wanted to get this no matter the cost until I saw THIS. What is this shit?? Touchphone are you kidding me?? This is perfect for little girls or anorectic adults. If you have big hands ( and who doesn't when they grow up, either by work out or gainig weitgh;)) then you won't even see shit on the screen. I was hoping for some PSP similar device for gaming with phone capabilities. I guess as usual Microsoft is just trying to fuck us over. Unless I have it in my hands and it feels comfortable enough I will not even as much as think about this piece of shit software!!!

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Comment #61 by Son of Lies
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 01:27:56 PM
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contracts up on my Pre...just playing the waiting game.

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Comment #62 by SetoChaos
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 04:40:05 PM
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Want, now :D

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Comment #63 by cooldude123
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 06:09:30 PM
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Comment #64 by Masterchief950
Friday, September 10, 2010 @ 07:36:52 PM
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Zune Software FTW Woo. Looks good too bad Im stuck in a contract with my iPhone >.>

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Comment #65 by Ub3rK1ng
Saturday, September 11, 2010 @ 07:09:54 AM
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Comment #66 by Twincats
Saturday, September 11, 2010 @ 08:22:30 AM
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Comment #67 by Leone Phelps
Saturday, September 11, 2010 @ 11:34:52 AM
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@21 You're so funny.

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Comment #68 by DocRevolt
Saturday, September 11, 2010 @ 01:24:16 PM
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God damn it, just give us an Xbox handheld gaming system with internet capabilities. I really want this but I'm not giving up my iPhone.

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Comment #69 by DocRevolt
Saturday, September 11, 2010 @ 01:26:18 PM
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@34 Wow, you must be special. They don't have a given achievement system, several different companies have developed their own achievements systems between games such as OpenFeint. So calm down.

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Comment #70 by Emo185
Saturday, September 11, 2010 @ 02:04:07 PM
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The Xbox App reminds me of N-Gage App - i.e. games screen, shop, achievements, profile, friends and requests.

guess it will live longer than N-GAGE App if developers actually make and release games for it.

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Comment #71 by I Solace I
Saturday, September 11, 2010 @ 04:57:02 PM
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@emo185 yeah lol

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Comment #72 by Klammeraffe
Monday, September 13, 2010 @ 05:19:25 PM
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The phone on the picture is not a Samsung i8700 it's the i8910 Omnia HD...

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Comment #73 by ShazamFTW
Tuesday, September 14, 2010 @ 06:42:06 PM
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I must say, I have been underwhelmed at the service AT&T provides with it's Iphone, but I was never really lured away by any other phone to care to switch.

If this goes live, and I can access my 360 account from my phone, and perhaps whore achievements while waiting at the dentist, I'm so on that, I'd pay the ETF at AT&T in a heartbeat...

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Comment #74 by xX mini94 Xx
Thursday, September 16, 2010 @ 09:51:45 AM
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cool little device

is it me or that guy a steriotypical homo?

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Comment #75 by JSMOKA22
Saturday, September 18, 2010 @ 01:21:21 AM
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@59 I'm 6ft 8 n I have no problem having big hands and using my touch screen phone, u obviously never used 1 and are putting them down cause u can't afford 1.
$ont like the start up menu thing about hubs n etc. But they really need to make this work with droid phones, they would sell so many more games, cause u all should know that it will never work for Iphones, just like anything else that's cool at all. But u know this phone will be at least 400 bucks unless u sign a 2 year contract. No buy 4 me, just gonna sit back and wait R it to become droid compatible. Hopefully

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Comment #76 by JSMOKA22
Saturday, September 18, 2010 @ 01:29:33 AM
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@53 That's why u don't have a job.
@74 yea that guy was super gay

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Comment #77 by Ant695
Saturday, September 18, 2010 @ 06:16:12 AM
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Looks good and ive been considering a new phone for a while so might hold out for this.

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Comment #78 by Jamieironmaiden
Sunday, September 19, 2010 @ 05:23:24 AM
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Wow, must get a windows phone.

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Comment #79 by FailedSeppuku
Sunday, September 19, 2010 @ 01:28:01 PM
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cheevos on the go ?!!?! now if they release EDF: Insect Armageddon for it too, i'll buy 3 :oP

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Comment #80 by II M1CK3H II
Monday, September 20, 2010 @ 11:12:28 AM
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I have no idea why Samsung make such huge phones, and they always suck. If HTC brought out a phone with WP7 on it I'd be tempted to ditch my iPhone for it.

Saying that, all the games shown look awful, and the OS looks sluggish. Dont see many ditching iOS or Android for this.

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Comment #81 by Nutty Scouser
Tuesday, September 21, 2010 @ 06:38:30 AM
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Samsung dont make huge phones - samsung are quality on any samsung appliance if you notice the volume is low on every thing though thats the let down with samsung

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Comment #82 by Hot Minute
Tuesday, September 21, 2010 @ 10:57:16 AM
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Ok...i've wanted a way to get achievements on the go for about 4 years now...and i just bought the Samsung Galaxy S TODAY. So if i can get this on my Galaxy S, HELL YEAH!!! WOOOHOOO!!!
But if i can't....someone will pay dearly...

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Comment #83 by Berserk Orc
Thursday, September 23, 2010 @ 01:04:26 AM
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This would be exciting if i cared about cell phones im one of those rare few that uses my cell phone for the one simple purpose of calling people and nothing else my cell phone is so oldschool it dosnt even have a camera on it, Though if i was a cell phone person i could see this being pretty cool.

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