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Molyneux Made Up Game Features "To Stop Journalists Going To Sleep"
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During his BAFTA Fellowship acceptance speech last night, Lionhead's Peter Molyneux said a few things that shocked the gathered audience at the event held in London yesterday evening. However, Molyneux's admission that he "made up" game features to ensure journalists didn't nod off during interviews was perhaps the most surprising confession of all.

“I’d like to thank the press, by the way, for listening to my stuff,” Molyneux said upon receiving his BAFTA Fellowship award. “Sorry – I’ve slightly over-promised on things on occasion.” Well, that apology was long overdue...

“I could name at least 10 features in games that I’ve made up to stop journalists going to sleep and I really apologise to the team for that,” he added.

“Every day I wake up and thank the stars that I’m still here now,” said Molyneux as he concluded his short speech. “I love my job so much and I really feel like going home and working harder than I’ve ever done to prove that I deserve this award.”

Molyneux joins fellow games industry luminaries Shigeru Miyamoto, Nolan Bushnell and Will Wright in receiving BAFTA honours. How these comments from his speech regarding the fabrication of games features will be received however, ought to be interesting.

[Via Gaming Bolt]




 
 

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Comment #1 by SeraphTC
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:31:14 AM
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Poor Peter. Sometimes he needs to learn that saying less is better than saying too much.

Less is More Mr Molyneux. Less is More.


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Comment #2 by Justin11
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:31:40 AM
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hope fable 4 is for the first time an improvement


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Comment #3 by Clarky08
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:31:46 AM
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No bother Mr Molyneux - How about you get your finger out for Fable 4 though as Fable 3 was a step backwards after the classy Fable 2. Still enjoyed it though just could have been so much better.


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Comment #4 by xbfrittsox360
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:32:13 AM
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At least he's honest and admitting it. But everyone kinda knew he was making false promises anyway once the games came out. I don't know if this hurts or improves his reputation.


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Comment #5 by The Finn
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:32:20 AM
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Molyneux in lying SHOCKER ~!

What a guy.


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Comment #7 by Channel 8 News
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:32:51 AM
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I'd like to be the first to say, "I knew it all along."


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Comment #8 by jtr1gg3r
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:32:52 AM
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he may as well have just said he's a c**t

*facepalm


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Comment #9 by Webb [STAFF]
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:33:42 AM
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Number 1 on the top 10 list of things developers should never say... is:

"I could name at least 10 features in games that I've made up to stop journalists going to sleep and I really apologise to the team for that."

How about apologising to fans Peter? Oh well, that respect I once had has now somewhat diminished. How does he expect the gaming press to react now he's said that?


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Comment #10 by pdjto420
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:38:44 AM
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I know the guy is talented but that sounds like a cop out to me.


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Comment #11 by InfestusDnB
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:40:28 AM
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Although admitting this was a big mistake IMO, he couldn't really deny it either as the evidence was there instantly upon the games release (fable 3), i enjoyed it, but it really didnt improve on fable 2, if anything it felt 'less' than fable 2 in many ways. In its own right, it was a great game, but given that its part of a (once?) much loved series, I (and I think many many others)felt a bit cheated at the end. I don't know if anyone else remember Black & White from a few years back, he promised SOOOO much with that game, and it turned out to be mostly a pile of broken rubbish IMO and was vastly disliked by many, just my tuppence worth.


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Comment #12 by Defraggler
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:41:52 AM
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Everything he says about a game going forward is going to be seen as a lie. Good luck promoting Fable 4! Perhaps Lionhead should send him away during the promotional period or lock him in a cupboard.


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Comment #13 by diziet
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:42:46 AM
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Fable 3 was such a disappointment for me, the second one was superior. This over promising thing for Molyneux really kicked off with Black & White and I think he needs to take a step back, be more shy around journalists and learn to respect his customers a little bit more. I certainly won't be buying Lionhead software as a day one purchase any more. It's such a shame the glory days of Bullfrog are gone and that Mucky Foot and Elixir also floundered.


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Comment #14 by Arron114
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:42:58 AM
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I was considering buying the DLC and Coin golf (when we ever see it) Cheers Mr. Molyneux your comments have just vetoed that.

I dont line self-obsessed liers pockets.


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Comment #15 by Webb [STAFF]
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:47:30 AM
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@#11 - Well, being over-ambitious and not having enough time in the development schedule to put everything in was a good enough reason if you ask me.


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Comment #16 by Fang Foom
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:48:19 AM
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It wouldn't be SO bad if the stuff he promised and didn't deliever wasn't stuff that would've made the game ten times better!



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Comment #17 by Wardancer
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:49:58 AM
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Sheez, guy's allways full of his games, and makes a lot of noise about pointless features (holding hands in Fable 3 comes to mind). And now he finally admits he's spouting BS, but then partially shifts blame to journalists... Weak


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Comment #18 by Sonic Grunge
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:51:18 AM
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How about as an apology all Fable 3 DLC is free, so he can cram in those 10 things he lied about?


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Comment #19 by NativeMilk
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:57:19 AM
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Now I hate him even more.


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Comment #20 by Flibbity Floid
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:59:37 AM
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Molyneux...making up stuff to get press?

No?!

*sarcasm poured on like molasses*

@ Webb - Agreed but in his case, how many other developers have talked about more than 3 major things in their games that just didn't make it without announcement? Very few honestly. Molyneux has this bad habit of getting overhyped for his own shtick and then flat out not delivering. Fable: The Lost Chapters was nothing like he promised. There were a few new weapons, titles and 2 very small areas. Supremely disappointing. Then Fable 2 really botched the co-op. It was a huge draw for me and he flat out tarnished it. And what happened to Milo or that Canoe game he was ranting about? They seemed to have pulled a Molyneux - Never showed up.


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Comment #21 by Thrall51906
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:07:17 AM
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ill keep it simple: fuck this guy.

i love fable, but i really dont want to support someone that is going to outright lie to the fans. not cool Peter. not cool.


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Comment #22 by sumthingchronic
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:10:25 AM
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yeah u lying bastard!!! Always fill me with disappointment


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Comment #23 by callmeclean
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:11:24 AM
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I think everyone is being a bit uptight here, the bullshit media industry we have today that review games mostly just care about new features and he was just keeping them awake. I do agree with webs though that he should be apologizing the fans but not the bloody media. This is one of the few sites I can actually enjoy reading news about games as the others fuck up my mind.

And @ 11 Black and White is also hailed as a classic among many people including me, nearly all of Peter's games were brilliant innovations from the time of Fable backwards.


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Comment #24 by ICGMU12321
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:19:28 AM
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Is anyone really surprised at all by this?


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Comment #25 by Chaosflare
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:20:19 AM
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"... on occasion".
I laughed.


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Comment #26 by Webb [STAFF]
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:21:48 AM
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@#20 - Over hype all you like, I don't mind that. Get passionate about something, great. Whatever, that's our duty as gamers - and us as the media - to pick through what's hot and what's not... but to say that certain features were made up as a flatout lie to keep "journalists awake"? I think that's pretty preposterous, especially considering when there should be a level of trust between developers and the media (especially in hands-off presentations) to inform fans of what they can expect in games. In a way, it's no different to misleading advertising, designed to mislead the viewers.

How can we as media report to you folks anything that someone says (and believe it) when they come out with stuff like this. I didn't mind the Peter Molyneux that was over-ambitious and over-sold his ideas for his games, even if it was so ambitious that they didn't have the time or resources to do it. I do mind the Peter Molyneux that fabricates features just to pique people's interests.


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Comment #27 by Ooyah
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:24:31 AM
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So he lacked faith in his games to such an extent that he felt he had to try and keep the journalists awake by making stuff up? Isn't this a big insult to the team that he works with as well? I already think that his reputation is damamged beyond repair, as he always comes across as more of a salesman than a developer, and he is always trying to 'spin' everything, and, looking at the interviews he has given, he often seems to treat journalists and gamers like idiots who will believe anything that he says. He probably needs to re-think his style before he alienates everybody, if he hasn't already.


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Comment #28 by Chaosflare
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:28:14 AM
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Completely off-topic: Ooyah is amazing just for having a gamerpic of the always wonderful Mister Francis York Morgan. xD


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Comment #29 by NawtyCawty
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:32:54 AM
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What is the big deal? I cant believe how naive gamers are. I bet every games developer/publisher who ever lived has lied about their games/DLC in one form or another. Most sequels to games are same old same old and a bit of a dissapointment. I cant think of one sequel that has been that much better than its predecessor. Apart from NFS Hot Pursuit of course.


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Comment #30 by Xlioe
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:40:38 AM
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@29

Modern Warfare 2, Forza 2 and then 3, Assassins Creed 2 and then Brotherhood, you could count the Final Fantasy series maybe, Burnout games just to name a few.

But then most of those sequels were taking what was wrong with the first and fixing it and then making the game bigger


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Comment #31 by InfestusDnB
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:49:58 AM
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@15(Webb) Am I being told off? Lol. Time constraints and ambition are all well and good, but he must have known there were issues with the claims he was making at the time, as consumers ALL of us on here deserve to be told the truth about upcoming games/features therein for the simple fact that what with all the pre-order ONLY bonuses and such that seem to come with every game, some v time/date restricted, promises made then not kept can only lead to disappointment. Naive or not a false claim is a false claim, surely with this being probably the biggest entertainment medium globally (gaming in general) there should be the same rules for false/misleading advertising.


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Comment #32 by Ooyah
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:50:43 AM
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#28 - So says Mr Stewart? :)


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Comment #33 by ViNyLek
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:57:44 AM
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@#1 That's not what millions of lady would say:-P

Wow, how did he get that award, unless it is for aforementioned overpromising things? Feels like Fable gets simpler and more accessible with each installment and that's really all his got going for him nowadays. They should have give this to him some years back when he actually made great and unique games^^


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Comment #34 by BuckfastNI
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:01:53 AM
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To be honest I thought Fable 2 was a huge disappointment, I attempted to play it again recently to wrap up the achievements but couldn't bring myself to do it; The over-simplified combat, the lack of cool attire and customisation amongst other things really bores me. The games feels shallow to me. Too short and not much under the surface.

For these reasons I still haven't played Fable III after I pre-ordered the second game and now Molyneux has come out and said that he lied about features in the game!? Won't be buying III or the yet to be announced IV. I've currently got Fable III sitting as a low priority on my LOVEFiLM rental list...


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Comment #35 by mksystem74
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:02:34 AM
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Is that any different than what a politician does? No. You get promised the world and then get let down. It's happened through out history and now games. Can't blame them, it just happens. Sure we'll be lied to again, if not by him someone else.


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Comment #36 by WaahhJedi
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:03:21 AM
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I'm actually really let down by this. I always considered him to be super passionate in the videos I saw, explaining all the stuff they were working on. To learn that he was just bullshitting to get attention and build hype, with no intention of following through, is really depressing. Not sure that I'll be interested in a Fable 4 at this point.


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Comment #37 by Flibbity Floid
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:14:06 AM
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@ Webb - But that's exactly what I mean. I overhype myself on many franchises with what I want to see and if it's available in pics/vids, I'll over-analyze it to kingdom come. But if something isn't going to make the cut - announce it. If something isn't as badass as you made it out to be - let us know. Had I known Fable 2 would be so limited with the co-op with both transfer of character/data and the distance limitations, I wouldn't have bought the CE. I'm just saying that I'd like to play something at least on par with what I was told I was going to play. That's something even his smug ass could do. What I read about Fable was not what I wound up playing.


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Comment #38 by LocustDawn
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:15:38 AM
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Shitty excuse is shitty.


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Comment #39 by KnifeLife
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:24:35 AM
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I Never Liked That Guy Tbh, Hes Got His Head To Far Up His Ass, And He Makes Weird Noises Like That Counciler Guy Out Of South Park.


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Comment #40 by Ooyah
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:25:53 AM
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#35 - I understand what you mean, but do you really think that you can't blame them? If somebody lies, and they know that they are lying at the time, then surely this is not defendable behaviour in any way? I can blame him for misleading the public, and I certainly should expect not to be lied to. Unless you mean that this is just human nature, that people will lie, and that there is not much to be done about it, which is a point. Personally, I don't believe in human nature, it just sounds like the kind of excuse that people like Molyneux would give. An interesting issue, though!


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Comment #41 by dark wing
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:33:50 AM
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Could it be possible that he lied about that too.


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Comment #42 by Dr Popodopolus
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:36:15 AM
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What an outrageous claim. Won't be buying any more games that Peter Molyneux has, not brand new anyway. He won't be getting any more of my money after the disappointment of Fable 2. Fable 3 was a low priority but now I can't see myself getting it any time. What a time to own up to that eh? BAFTA time.. LOL.


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Comment #43 by BrySkye
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:49:11 AM
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I actually watched the presentation live, and its probably worth pointing out the whole speech was done in good humour, as was the audience reactions (The Audience mainly being made up of other developers).

Can I just point out, his actual apology was to his development team.

This implies that he made up features on the spot to stop journalists going to sleep... -and subsequently this led to the development team having to try to actually implement them-.
That's what the apology was for.
It doesn't strictly mean that none of these features never made it into the games.


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Comment #44 by mksystem74
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:50:02 AM
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@40 - No you can't blame them, because you buy in to the BS. So can you blame them for that? If there is nothing to support what they're saying and you buy in to it, it's your fault. Hope only goes so far. You can just call them out (which many do) when they don't deliver and that's all we really can do. That's what I was getting at, if you buy in to it, you can't blame them. The most you can do when being told something is go, "we'll see" and then when its time to make a choice, you buy in or you don't and then you see the final product and it is what it is.


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Comment #45 by Webb [STAFF]
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:53:48 AM
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@#31 - Oh, not in the slightest =) I just enjoy a good back-and-forth chin wag =P Oh, yeah, I agree, but personally, I can somewhat forgive ambition and an overzealous attitude, but I can't someone who just makes up stuff for the fun of it.

@#37 - I totally understand what you're saying and do agree. I personally think that it's a little different saying, "We've got this and this in," compared to what you ascertain yourself. You're right though, they need to man up and tell fans - and the media alike - if features announce aren't in there. It might make them rethink what they announce to start with then... but then again, that doesn't sell games =P

Perfect example of what to do:
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-7448-Gears-of-War-3-s-Unlocks-Explained.html


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Comment #46 by NawtyCawty
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:02:58 AM
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#29 by listing those games you have just proved my point. All pretty much the same as the ones before. Apart from Burnout Paradise, have to agree with you there, fabulous game and a huge leap forward.


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Comment #47 by elsnoggler
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:03:05 AM
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#4 - At least he's honest? About making features up on the spot during interviews to garner interest for his games? It shouldn't be enough simply to admit it after receiving honours at the VG Bafta.

If you compared any of his games against the - in retrospect - absurd promises he has traditionally made about their feature sets, you'd leave being seriously disappointed in the overall experience, instead of just mildly disappointed.


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Comment #48 by Genesis x360a
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:11:04 AM
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Has Mr M shot himself in the foot on this one...Only time will tell.


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Comment #49 by Flibbity Floid
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:14:15 AM
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@ Webb - It's just common principle. I pay for the game, I deserve to know what it consists of in the finale. That aside, the whole article itself speaks for Molyneux's shoddyness. If you have to make up stuff to keep your audience entertained or interested, maybe you should stop BS'ing and just come clean with separating Ideas and Actuality. It's not that hard. Maybe journalists are going to sleep b/c all he keeps proposing are dreams.


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Comment #50 by Andreas_loel
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:21:40 AM
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He has always been full of shit, he is one of those persons you always take with a grain of salt due to a shitload of lies always comming out of his mouth


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Comment #51 by Ooyah
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:28:25 AM
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#44 - Ah right, yeah I see what you mean. If people do fall for it, then they will continue to chance their arm. However, I would still blame them for open deceit. :) But I do know what you mean.


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Comment #52 by o D M C o
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:34:29 AM
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To me this is yet another Molyneux lie. He didnt intentionally mislead journos, seriously, what would be the point. It is simply his attempt to justify all the overhyped underwhelming games. It reminds me of when he tried to pretend the pub games glitch was intentional, he has to try and take credit for something that was actually a mistake. What you have to remember is that Molyneux wont admit most of his mistakes and his arrogance is on such an elephantine scale that when he does admit a problem, he has to pretend it was intentional. I loathe the guy with a passion, hes an absolute embarrassment to the gaming industry


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Comment #53 by IDeaths Sythe
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:36:15 AM
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In my opinion his games are good, he doesnt need to lie about anything like the first comment less is more, why promise something you cant give after playing all three titles and have enjoying them, i will continue to support the franchise as it has something rather unique from other RPG's, Fingers crossed for a fable 4 and the ressurection of jack of blades


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Comment #54 by Swegabe
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:48:11 AM
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And to think that guy is now the head at Rare... *shivers*


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Comment #55 by MEMANIAsama
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:57:55 AM
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This isn't a surprise to me. We all know he talks out his ass, it's just surprising to see him admit it. Does his virtual boy Kinect thing even exist?


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Comment #56 by Solomon Fuere
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:29:22 AM
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...THIS SHOCKED PEOPLE?!


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Comment #57 by ThePumpkinKing
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:53:05 AM
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That's a shame, really. One could once have been chalked up to an almost childlike sense of over enthusiasm. Ends up being bullshit to intentionally mislead press and public.


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Comment #58 by Frank_The_Bison
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:53:31 AM
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@ 9

Half of everything he's "made up" made his games sound actually fun. Maybe if he stopped trolling the journalists, the games would be fun.


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Comment #59 by SUTCLIFF 286
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 11:58:04 AM
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The guy is a pretentious twat. nuff said

Fable is a solid franchise that could really do without him... don't get me wrong, i appreciate the honesty because now i will wait until fable 3 is a fiver rather than a tenner!!

Ps. if i bought stella and carling was in the can, i'd get a refund


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Comment #60 by asphyxiate
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 12:00:21 PM
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Doesn't surprise me at all. Fable 2 was a step backwards from Fable, and Fable 3 was a step backwards from the second. In the span of two games he effectively removed almost all of the RPG elements from the original Fable. By the third we had no health bar, no mana bar, stopped gaining experience in exchange for guild seals and armour that was nothing but aesthetic. I loved the original Fable and am disappointed in Molyneux's bastardization of the series.


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Comment #61 by RunDMC
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 12:06:49 PM
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His biggest lie was Milo. The first trailer had giant problems. Making hype is one thing but making up a game?


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Comment #62 by Frank_The_Bison
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 12:10:05 PM
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Games where you cannot die, have no difficulty. No boss is hard if you can die and just pop up in the middle of the fight with no penalty.


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Comment #63 by Bullhorse
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 12:20:02 PM
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I STILL remember all the complete bullshit he was saying before the original fable came out, about how it was going to be the most revolutionary game of all time with all these amazingly realistic features. it was hyped as being the game to destroy all games, meanwhile, not even fable 3 on a next-gen system comes close to the promises he made about the original game.

all that said, i think the fable series is fun, but that's all it is. a simple bit of fun.


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Comment #64 by Rivercurse
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 12:25:50 PM
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Still waiting for Milo to "change my world", Peter...


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Comment #65 by Beechbone
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 01:10:19 PM
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Oh come on, don't be bitchy about it. I think it was heartwarming and hilarious. The whole speech was pretty emotional, and broken promises or not, Molyneux is the one who deserves this award like few other men.


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Comment #66 by PhoenixTemplar
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 01:20:27 PM
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Sorry, but I call straight up bullshit on this one.

So all those innovative features you promised gamers that never made it into the final cut were only said to keep journalists awake? Oh, that makes complete sense. In fact, it's not really your fault at all, is it Mr. Molynuex? It's those damn irresponsible journalists who are dozing off during your demo time.

Heres a suggestion, you still lying piece of shit: Use some of the profits from the huge disappointment that was Fable 3 to buy a coffee maker for the Lionhead office. Easier to keep pesky journalists awake, and it doesn't make you look like a huge over hyping douche when your game ships missing promised features.


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Comment #67 by Darkdefiler84
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 01:27:51 PM
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A totally undeserved reward. I've hated Molyneux since Black & White wasn't what it was bigged up to be. He does it every time with Fable and the series is rubbish. If you like rpg's play a proper one like Dragon Age or Baldur's Gate!


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Comment #68 by Purge0fD1v1n1ty
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 03:06:05 PM
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@60 Couldn't put it better myself I tried two thankfully finished the achievements I did that mainly to try and immerse myself more.. didn't happen sigh how I missed the magic of the first... never again I knew this would happen with 3 glad I didn't buy it.


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Comment #69 by mentaljason
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 03:21:05 PM
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I hear Fable 4 is gunna be the first game to have 5000Gs!! This is most definitely a feature


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Comment #70 by Ultimo Godzilla
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 04:01:17 PM
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Fable 3 sucked balls. It had too much gay humor (main male lead dancing and swooning all over the other males). It made me feel like I was watching queer eye for the straight guy. Fable 2 is a beast compared to Fable 3. Oh, and way to take out the action wheel from Fable 2 and limit us as to what we can do for interactions in Fable 3. the only good thing I have to say is it was easier than Fable 3 and I got the Boxer dog companion, but every time you show it optimism it looks like your character is in some sort of beastiality relationship with it.


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Comment #71 by KNIGHTOFSERA
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 04:17:34 PM
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Fable II and III sucked....why are people giving this man an award

By trying to make the games simple he made them stupid and boring....

whatever my friend still loves fable so I guess ill play Fable 4 borrowing it from him


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Comment #72 by Grummy
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 05:13:54 PM
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I've actually lost a lot of respect for him over this.

Before now I always assumed he was just bubbling with enthusiasm and was just promising things that he really wanted to implement or was really excited about. When they didn't turn up, we could assume they didn't have time to make them work for some reason. You learn fast to take what he says with a pinch of salt, but you also couldn't help to like him and forgive him his over-exuberance.

But now, it's just a fact that you can't trust anything he says, because he could be making it all up just for the hell of it. It's a serious betrayal of trust in my book.


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Comment #73 by Gearbolt
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 05:18:00 PM
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Not surprised at all after reading this.


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Comment #74 by X monkfish69 X
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 05:24:16 PM
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Why is everyone taking what he has said at face value ? This could be another method of his to get people talking about him. Another way for him to big-up his 'big' ego.

We all know how he likes to be the centre of attention and it looks like he's done it again. Personally, if he chooses to lie about what goes into a game and what doesn't, that's up to him. Surely though there is a certain amount of truth that goes into magazine reviews of games and reviews by websites such as this. Surely this is the point at which we can suss out what has been included or not included in games ? At the end of the day, I rely on these reviews as to whether I bother to make a purchase or not. I don't rely on previews cause things can get taken away at the last minute before games are released. For example: PGR 4 was meant to have a realistic day/night cycle, but it was removed at the last minute to make way for other cars or tracks. But again it was promised to make it into the final game, but didn't. Boo hoo. It was still a very good game and sold shitloads.

I still like and respect the guy and will still buy his games, unless they are shit.


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Comment #75 by BADFELLA
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 05:43:15 PM
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i saw a interview of his on xbox main menu last year i throught he was chatting shhh... then dnt they all to big up there games...


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Comment #76 by the ferenczy
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 05:57:05 PM
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Screw him and Fable. Over-rated garbage with missing features. Good job at tricking consumers by lying about your product and then saying you did it on purpose. I will never buy from Lionhead again. I hope your company fails and M$ dumps your lying ass.


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Comment #77 by IceeDesertEagle
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 06:09:22 PM
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He does need to stop lying and how about making a fable worthy of the name. To many glitches and not enough things to make up for it. How about free dlc to show that you still care about the people buying your glitchy ass games.


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Comment #78 by Devil Sora
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 06:46:51 PM
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Hm. . . I dont know if I should be indifferent about his announcment and say "of course he lied" or be proud of him for apologizing.


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Comment #79 by Fox Hound JD
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:11:31 PM
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Well duh! Even though hes "confessed", I can still just see it now after Fable 4 is announced... "Fable 4 will literally be not only the greatest game experience ever, but the greatest life accomplishment you could ever hope to achieve. You will literally enter Albion with 32 friends and literally have sex with each other. There will be no loading screens and the best in game map system ever created by a human being. When you level up your skills in magic, you literally learn magic powers in real life, literally"... I love Molyneux and Fable, but his pre launch interview have always cracked me up.


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Comment #80 by Epilogue of Euphoria
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 07:43:48 PM
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Who needs credibility anyways? Over-rated.


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Comment #81 by SkirkRidgeEX
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:16:05 PM
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He should probably start afresh with a new series in a new genre. The fact that he has said he over-compensated for previous titles capability means we can start a sweepstake.

Will this promised feature make it into his new game?
Odds:
1/99999999999999999999999 - Yes
1/2 - No


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Comment #82 by Dr Popodopolus
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:32:02 PM
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#74 Name one good Peter Molyneux game


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Comment #83 by xxshadowboaxx
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:32:52 PM
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and what were these 10 features other than kinect support?


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Comment #84 by xxshadowboaxx
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 08:33:57 PM
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and what were these 10 features other than kinect support?


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Comment #85 by DaChiefOfOwnage
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:05:54 PM
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Chicken chaser?


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Comment #86 by BeheldBryan
Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 10:53:47 PM
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@82

Ever play Black & White? That game was pretty good.


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Comment #87 by irishoh
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 01:02:54 AM
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Limey douche nozzle! What the fuck is a BAFTA and why should we give two shits and a fuck?


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Comment #88 by Agent Aero
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 05:02:51 AM
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I felt Fable III was a little... iffy. And now he's admitted it, kind of. But i respect him more for that, most wouldn't.
Now he's "going home to prove he deserves the award." I just hope he wasn't lying about that to keep the media interested.


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Comment #89 by X monkfish69 X
Friday, March 18, 2011 @ 09:14:39 AM
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@82 - Peter Molyneux has been involved in a lot of significant games over the years.

Populous, Syndicate, Magic Carpet, Theme Park. These were all PC games, although some of them were ported over to the PS1 I believe. Obviously he has been responsible for the Fable series as well as the Black & White games. The guy also has a lifetime achievement award for his services to the games industry so he clearly does have some idea what he is doing, whether it be mis-leading the gaming world on purpose(or not) or whether he is churning out games/games ideas. The man is clearly brilliant - and he knows it.


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Comment #90 by kiwicupra
Saturday, March 19, 2011 @ 05:03:39 AM
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It sounds like his acceptance speech is as glitched and flawed as Fable III Traitors Keep DLC, or maybe he just opened his 7th Demon door (7/7) and his brain save crashed.


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Comment #91 by X nosgoth X
Sunday, March 20, 2011 @ 05:44:32 PM
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With those kinds of statements he should be in politics.

Molyneux for president?


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Comment #92 by stevebaker28
Monday, March 21, 2011 @ 09:46:44 AM
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I love fable 3! Really do. But yeah there were only 3 things in fable 2 I hated. When you upgraded your female character she ended up looking super butch and just plain wrong (this was fixed in fable 3), the dollcatcher achievement (this was taken to new and horrible extremes in fable 3) and the ending! OMG that ending was the worst game ending ever in my opinion, especially after the first fable's awesome battle with Jack.
Fable 3 is a great game but it could have been amazing eh? Here's to looking forward to fable 4 and not paying any attention to Peter when he starts plugging it cuz we all knew from day one he was full of it.


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Comment #93 by ash356
Tuesday, March 29, 2011 @ 12:06:30 PM
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I reasonable enjoyed Fable 3 whilst playing it, but theres not really any replay value there... sure you can go back and be evil, but the evil choices since fable 1 have been lacking in respects. Getting rid of the experience system was the worst thing they ever did.
We should be thanking him really, he's taught us a valuable life lesson: Don't trust that which you can't see.


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Comment #94 by Karinnarre
Tuesday, April 05, 2011 @ 01:09:54 PM
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Considering what he promised, fable 3 was a huge step backwards, the road to rule was cool, other than that it has no real excitement after the main storyline, I mean I played the main storyline, and have now chucked the game to the side, since I enjoyed the extra tidbits in Fable 2, but fable 3 doesn't seem to have the replay value as Flamin x Demon said.


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Comment #95 by mjc0961
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 06:10:02 PM
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Personally, I think it's appalling that this clown should be considered in the same rank as Shigeru Miyamoto and Will Wright. The only thing Peter should get is a smack on the head and a stern lecture about how to hype a game properly. And that should include lessons on how to make a good game too.


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Comment #96 by WEBHEAD 7
Sunday, September 11, 2011 @ 06:54:02 PM
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this reminds me of a video i watched on inside xbox around the time fable 3 was about to come out,, molyneux said something like, 'if albion is like medieval england, then aurora is like medieval america...' as i play this game for a 2nd time to mop up some remaining achievements, im trying to picture the aurorans like native americans or maybe mexican indians,, but really, aurora is so india. makes me wonder, was molyneux just saying that to perk up the ears of potential american buyers, or did he just not have a very good idea of what the designers were doing...? either way, i think im just gonna start calling him peter magoo


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Comment #97 by Irish Dave
Tuesday, January 31, 2012 @ 09:58:45 AM
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Peter went overboard on his Fable 2 announcement (sales pitch), I had high expectations and then when I received it a day before release, how disapointed was I, then he did the same with Fable 3....

Fable 4... I think not.

Regardless to what his sales pitch may be for F4, hey its going to support Kinect, I wont be buying it. £39.99 can go towards another RPG game that will take more than 9 hours 17 minutes to complete the story.


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Comment #98 by Irish Dave
Tuesday, January 31, 2012 @ 10:00:33 AM
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on that note peter.

If you want to "To Stop Journalists Going To Sleep", make a good game.. Stop boring people to sleep. That says alot about your sense of humour.


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