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Yes, you can complete the game on any difficulty with hardcore on and still achieve the achievement. However, I will say that there have been rare cases that have popped up on these forums where someone changed the difficulty mid-game and didn't get the achievement. Now, this is the internet so those rumors could be completed unfounded, but I'm just letting you know.

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Your information under 'Desert Survivalist' is wrong. As long as you're hurt enough that all of the health points for an item will heal you, you can go to your pip-boy menu and use all of that item, and every health point will count towards the achievement, even if it's several thousand higher than the amount of health that can actually be healed.

 

This same trick works with stim-ply amazing if you set it to hardcore mode so that it heals over time instead of immediately; as long as you're hurt enough, you can use all of your stimpacks at once and the health from every single one will go towards the achievement.

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Your information under 'Desert Survivalist' is wrong. As long as you're hurt enough that all of the health points for an item will heal you, you can go to your pip-boy menu and use all of that item, and every health point will count towards the achievement, even if it's several thousand higher than the amount of health that can actually be healed.

 

This same trick works with stim-ply amazing if you set it to hardcore mode so that it heals over time instead of immediately; as long as you're hurt enough, you can use all of your stimpacks at once and the health from every single one will go towards the achievement.

 

I'm well aware that food heals over time in either mode; that does not, however, make my method wrong as you claim. I left the method as-is for the fact that Stimpaks in regular mode heal instantly. Therefore, by leaving the method slightly less efficient I could simply say 'do what you did for desert survivalist' for Stim-ply Amazing instead of outlining differences between the two. And yes, you could turn hardcore mode on and thus have stimpaks heal over time, but honestly my method takes a grand total of 5 minutes max. When I timed it, I was healing 8000 health at 60 health per pak, so even if you're slow in your pip-boy menu it shouldn't take you more than 10 minutes. I'd rather keep the method more straightforward and intuitive than complicate it for the sake of a few minutes. And as a meta note, if Bethesda ever decides that it must be food healed instead of food potential and thus patches the exploit, my method will still work.

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I'm well aware that food heals over time in either mode; that does not, however, make my method wrong as you claim. I left the method as-is for the fact that Stimpaks in regular mode heal instantly. Therefore, by leaving the method slightly less efficient I could simply say 'do what you did for desert survivalist' for Stim-ply Amazing instead of outlining differences between the two. And yes, you could turn hardcore mode on and thus have stimpaks heal over time, but honestly my method takes a grand total of 5 minutes max. When I timed it, I was healing 8000 health at 60 health per pak, so even if you're slow in your pip-boy menu it shouldn't take you more than 10 minutes. I'd rather keep the method more straightforward and intuitive than complicate it for the sake of a few minutes. And as a meta note, if Bethesda ever decides that it must be food healed instead of food potential and thus patches the exploit, my method will still work.

 

Yeah, the stim-ply amazing thing is silly, but with desert survivalist, it's very difficult to constantly consume food every time you take damage rather than using stim-packs, and you don't mention that you can use all food items at once rather than going through the tedium of losing a shit-ton of health over and over again.

 

Some people, like me, don't take a lot of damage over the course of the game, so when you claim under 'Desert Survivalist' that you need to actually get all of the health points, it's both misleading and time-consuming. With 20 gecko steaks and a high enough Survival skill, you can "heal" 1500 damage in a couple of seconds.

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You'll Know It When It Happens, 20http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/site/gp-g.png: Complete You'll Know It When It Happens.

 

This quest is special in that it is given in both the NCR and Wildcard quest lines. Note for Wildcard that this may not appear as a quest but as an optional part to 'Wildcard: Final Touches'. In either case, the main goal is to prevent the three assassination attempts against the President. There is a bomb on the vertibird, a sniper in the tower behind the president, and a fake mechanic with a knife. See a detailed walk through here.

 

 

 

The House Always Wins - Part VI also requires you to stop the assassination. However, if you have a negative NCR Rep, you will "fail" the quest and skip it. Might want to add that in.

 

Also, an easy way for Desert Survivalist is to go to Camp McCarran, go to the barracks, fix the food processor for the cook(80 repair or a lot of various items). After you fix it, he will stock food every 48-72 hours. He sells about 800 points worth of healing when I had a survival skill of ~20. Once you have the food, go into a corner and throw a single stick of dynamite, a grenade, whatever you can to damage yourself; then use all the food. Rince and repeat. Took me 20 mins to get it using this method.

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Yeah, the stim-ply amazing thing is silly, but with desert survivalist, it's very difficult to constantly consume food every time you take damage rather than using stim-packs, and you don't mention that you can use all food items at once rather than going through the tedium of losing a shit-ton of health over and over again.

 

Some people, like me, don't take a lot of damage over the course of the game, so when you claim under 'Desert Survivalist' that you need to actually get all of the health points, it's both misleading and time-consuming. With 20 gecko steaks and a high enough Survival skill, you can "heal" 1500 damage in a couple of seconds.

 

I already mentioned that I covered 8000 health in Stim-ply Amazing in a short amount of time. As for the food, using the Gourmand in the Ultra Luxe (with primarily Gecko, Brahmin Steaks, and so on) I polished off close to the full 10,000 damage in a matter of 15 minutes after acquiring all the food using the method. My character's survival score was low, so it most likely could be even quicker if a character had a higher survival skill score and brought Arcade along.

 

Most of the time invested is used to acquire the food, and by comparison the consuming portion is incredibly quick. I understand what you're saying, and yes just consuming all the health at once is quicker than drowning and consuming as I recommend. But also as I mentioned before, consuming the food / stimpaks is a small time investment already and trying to reduce that time through the ultra efficient method you describe is simply not worth it. I'm well aware that we're simply coming down to a difference in opinion here, but I'll have to respectfully decline your method.

The House Always Wins - Part VI also requires you to stop the assassination. However' date=' if you have a negative NCR Rep, you will "fail" the quest and skip it. Might want to add that in.[/color']

Also, an easy way for Desert Survivalist is to go to Camp McCarran, go to the barracks, fix the food processor for the cook(80 repair or a lot of various items). After you fix it, he will stock food every 48-72 hours. He sells about 800 points worth of healing when I had a survival skill of ~20. Once you have the food, go into a corner and throw a single stick of dynamite, a grenade, whatever you can to damage yourself; then use all the food. Rince and repeat. Took me 20 mins to get it using this method.

 

I'm aware of the status of 'You'll Know it When it Happens' of being in Mr. House's quest line as well, but by that point in the line you've already accrued a decent amount of infamy with the NCR. As such, it's exceedingly time consuming to try to get back into their good graces enough so that you can participate in that quest. (I tried on one of my characters, and it requires you to complete close to all the NCR quests in the game). It's easier to complete the quest during the Yes Man campaign as you acquire slightly less negative influence with the NCR during it, but I would still just recommend completing the quest during the NCR storyline as it's not required to complete either the Mr. House or Yes Man line (as you said).

 

The Camp McCarran option is strictly superior to the Gourmand as the Gourmand gives an average of 500 health per stock, but I did not include it for two reasons. First, the 80 repair skill is dauntingly high, especially since the repair skill is far less useful in FNV than in FO3. Second, you need to be on semi-reasonable terms to use that option, which means it can become impossible if you're working on a different quest line. So yes, if it's available to you it's a better choice, but I didn't list it because there's a good chance it won't be available to the average character (while the Gourmand is).

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I'm aware of the status of 'You'll Know it When it Happens' of being in Mr. House's quest line as well, but by that point in the line you've already accrued a decent amount of infamy with the NCR. As such, it's exceedingly time consuming to try to get back into their good graces enough so that you can participate in that quest. (I tried on one of my characters, and it requires you to complete close to all the NCR quests in the game). It's easier to complete the quest during the Yes Man campaign as you acquire slightly less negative influence with the NCR during it, but I would still just recommend completing the quest during the NCR storyline as it's not required to complete either the Mr. House or Yes Man line (as you said).

 

This isn't all true. While I havent finished my first playthrough, i'm doing Mr. House's quest line, and I was able to complete "You'll Know it When it Happens" during The House Always Wins. Ceasar's Leigon became Vilified, but, because of my choices BEFORE this quest with the NCR, they only became Neutral to me. Through Side Quests (That need to be done for achievements anyways) I was able to gain acceptance from the NCR again, and I was able to complete this quest in the House storyline.

 

You should at least ass it in as an option, because doing the achievement related side quests in the first playthrough will waste less time in following playthroughs in trying to get 1000g.

 

Also, 45 - 60 hours for 1000g seems way too fast for this game. 60 Hours was what it took me to do 1550 in Fallout 3, but, New Vegas has much more time consuming achievements, and, if you didn't make a good save to finish all 4 quest lines with 1 character, you're going higher.

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I'm aware of the status of 'You'll Know it When it Happens' of being in Mr. House's quest line as well, but by that point in the line you've already accrued a decent amount of infamy with the NCR. As such, it's exceedingly time consuming to try to get back into their good graces enough so that you can participate in that quest. (I tried on one of my characters, and it requires you to complete close to all the NCR quests in the game). It's easier to complete the quest during the Yes Man campaign as you acquire slightly less negative influence with the NCR during it, but I would still just recommend completing the quest during the NCR storyline as it's not required to complete either the Mr. House or Yes Man line (as you said).

 

This isn't all true. While I havent finished my first playthrough, i'm doing Mr. House's quest line, and I was able to complete "You'll Know it When it Happens" during The House Always Wins. Ceasar's Leigon became Vilified, but, because of my choices BEFORE this quest with the NCR, they only became Neutral to me. Through Side Quests (That need to be done for achievements anyways) I was able to gain acceptance from the NCR again, and I was able to complete this quest in the House storyline.

 

You should at least ass it in as an option, because doing the achievement related side quests in the first playthrough will waste less time in following playthroughs in trying to get 1000g.

 

Also, 45 - 60 hours for 1000g seems way too fast for this game. 60 Hours was what it took me to do 1550 in Fallout 3, but, New Vegas has much more time consuming achievements, and, if you didn't make a good save to finish all 4 quest lines with 1 character, you're going higher.

 

I don't mean to be curt, but please read what you quote. I've bolded what should be of interest.

 

Also, if the quest itself takes the same amount of time to complete regardless of what play through, wouldn't it be more efficient to not need to accumulate influence beforehand? As I listed in the roadmap, do all of the NCR quests together on the NCR play through, even if this means not getting the most possible achievements in the first play through.

 

And to rebuttal how long it takes, I clocked 58 hours to reach 940g out of 1000g without using a single save reloading. 20g I lost because of a glitch, and the other 40g I was (and am still) purposely holding out on though could be gotten in an hour at most.

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Hardcore, 100http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/site/gp-g.png: Play the game from start to finish in Hardcore Mode.

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For those of you having problems with this mode:

 

With current XP glitches in effect, I got this achievement in less than 5 hours. If Obisdian ever releases a patch for them then this information should be disregarded. Until then, here's the easy way(there may be some slight SPOILERS in here, be warned):

 

-Set your difficulty to Very Easy. This is crucial - if you feel like you'd be cheating yourself out of the gameplay like this, stop reading.

 

-I picked a female for the Black Widow perk. It's considerably faster and easier to get Benny into bed and kill him after sex than it is to outright murder him and fight off the entire staff of the Tops or chase him to Caeser's Fort.

 

-You can set up your SPECIAL and tag skills anyway you want. I'd recommend you avoid adding points to Charisma or Luck as you won't really need either on this playthrough. I did +2 to Intellegence for the skill point boost, +1 to Strength, Perception and Endurance.

 

As far as tag skills go for this, Barter and Survival are essentially worthless. I did have my Survival around 35 or so, but when I saw how fast I was progressing on this playthrough I realized I didn't need it set that high. You won't play the game long enough for either one of these to be a factor as I remember only needing to eat, drink, and/or sleep around a dozen or so times total between the three. Weapon skills are more based on personal preference, but I stayed with Guns and Energy Weapons more than Melee Weapons or Unarmed. Speech is an absolute must for reasons I'll list later.

 

-Start the game and make your way to the point where Doc asks you to sit on the couch. Before you sit down, pick up EVERYTHING in his house. You're going to sell it back to him in a few minutes for a handful of medical supplies and some surplus caps.

 

-Once you've turned on Hardcore mode and leave his house, go over to the Goodsprings bar and start the tutorial quest. Once the lady gives you a rifle, head towards Primm. Start and complete the story quests ONLY all the way until you get to Novac. Once in Novac, take the time to complete the side quest for Boone. Remember that companions can die in Hardcore and you'll need him for a while for the extra pack weight, so make sure you have him wait for you if you're going into a particularly hairy situation.

 

-When traveling, STICK TO THE ROAD. I cannot stress this enough - don't try to cut across country to get somewhere faster, stick to the road. I barely ran into any enemies on the road, making things much easier. The ones you do run into will usually fall with a couple of head shots from your crappy starter rifle. You can upgrade your weapons on the way, but remember to travel light when you can as ammo now has weight.

 

-Conveniently enough, the story quest will lead you right past HELIOS One. You have to have a Speech of at least 30 to lie your way in and do the That Lucky Old Sun quest for it's XP glitch. Once you've maxed out, have Boone carry your surplus Doctor's Bags and dump the rest. You should have a couple hundred Stimpacks as well, so at this point, unless you want money for another gun, you'll never have to do another side quest.

 

It is imperative that you put your Speech to 100 while leveling up your character. This will allow you to completely forgo engaging either the Legate or the General in battle after you've blown up the dam's generators.

 

Also, any perks that increase VATS accuracy or critical hit % and damage will turn you into a killing machine. Getting both levels of Toughness as well as Adamantium Skeleton will greatly reduce dependency on Doctor's Bags.

 

-Once in Vegas, opt for the Yes Man quest line. Most of the setup here involves merely visiting the different "tribes" and not much else. Don't worry about visiting Caeser's Fort - you won't need the extra Securitrons for anything.

 

One point I will mention is that when you head off to visit the Great Khans pick a location north of the marker and head south. If you try to do this by heading north from a southern location you will get gang-raped by Deathclaws, even when traveling on the main road. Remember, you're not going to have as many locations to fast travel to when doing this, so your options for a starting point will be limited.

 

-Save, save, and save again. Make a new save every so often while traveling as road-only travel takes a little while longer than cutting across country. Backtracking to a really old save sucks and defeats the purpose of speed-running through this to get the Hardcore achievement.

 

And that's it! Once you complete the Yes Man quest line for an independent New Vegas, you can sit back and enjoy your extra 100G.

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Most of the time invested is used to acquire the food, and by comparison the consuming portion is incredibly quick. I understand what you're saying, and yes just consuming all the health at once is quicker than drowning and consuming as I recommend. But also as I mentioned before, consuming the food / stimpaks is a small time investment already and trying to reduce that time through the ultra efficient method you describe is simply not worth it. I'm well aware that we're simply coming down to a difference in opinion here, but I'll have to respectfully decline your method.

 

It isn't a difference of opinion. I'll bold the part I take issue with.

 

Possibly the most annoying achievement in the game after Hardcore, this will almost certainly require boosting. A decent Survival skill score is a must, as it will greatly reduce the time to achieve this (Survival impacts how much health food replenishes). Also note that you must heal 10,000 points of damage, not eat 10,000 points of food health. A way to simply power through this is as follows:

 

That's the part that gets me. You imply that you have to actually restore 10,000 health when it isn't the case. You may think that repeatedly drowning yourself and healing is a great way to do it, and that is a difference of opinion, but your description implies something that's not true, which isn't what a good guide should do.

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It isn't a difference of opinion. I'll bold the part I take issue with.

 

 

 

That's the part that gets me. You imply that you have to actually restore 10,000 health when it isn't the case. You may think that repeatedly drowning yourself and healing is a great way to do it, and that is a difference of opinion, but your description implies something that's not true, which isn't what a good guide should do.

 

Yes, yes it is a difference of opinion. The inferred implication of the paragraph will vary from person to person, and thus it is not a fact. Since it's not a fact, it's therefore a theory or opinion. Mincing words, yes, but honestly that's the last way I can put it. I'm not going to put information in the guide that is a complete counterpoint to my method. If I put it in, then I have to explain it. If I explain it, a method will need to follow. But then I'll have two divergent ways to complete an achievement in roughly the same amount of time where one is no easier to accomplish than the other. And let's not disregard the pragmatic fact that I, at this moment, have roughly 100 characters at most left free in any of the 5 posts.

 

So in short, I disagree and I'll leave it at that. At this point I don't think anything I say will persuade you anyway.

 

Fun Fact: We've spent more time arguing about this than the difference between the total time needed to complete either of the proposed methods.

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Crafty, 15http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/../images/site/gp-g.png: Craft 20 items.

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You craft items by using any workbench or campfire in the wasteland. To name a few, there is a workbench next to the tavern in Goodsprings, a campfire near the wells in Goodsprings, and a workbench in the Presidential Suite of Lucky 38 (the workbench must be bought). The easiest way to get this achievement is to either recycle or convert ammo. Each time you take the action counts as 'crafting' an item, so you want to do each conversion individually. In other words, if you have ten micro fusion cell recycles to do you should recycle each separately as opposed to doing all ten at once.

 

-Thanks to Tchort69 for the campfire heads up.

 

The first time I used a workbench I recycled 29 things of ammo at once, and the achievement popped. I hadn't crafted anything before that. So, you should be able to just do it all at once instead of doing one at a time.

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For The Courier Who Broke The Bank I find it best to use 200 chips on the slots, if you get something good like say 3 bars or anything with a higher payout its 4,000 chips right there, its fairly easy too. To get that at a Blackjack table can take 30 minutes but at a slot machine more like 10.

 

So far I bankrupted Gomorrah with Cherrys and I bankrupted The Tops with 3 oranges... BTW If you skip over the 3rd Chip requirement and get straight up banned you don't get your Suite Key.

 

ALSO the Ultra-Luxe doesn't have any slots so no easy way out there, grinding out 15k chips at the tables...

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