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Exact same as Forza 3 except it's worse this time as they've added kinect. Fail.

 

Exactly! Win ALL races, upgrade again to max level, now even more demanding that players need to play up to 10th season.

 

As for Kinect, I suppose there is a risky method: asking those who have Kinect to "recover gametag" for those who don't to help them get that 5G. Of course this is risky since the email and password are needed

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Win ALL races, upgrade again to max level, now even more demanding that players need to play up to 10th season.

I wonder if the seasons will be shorter than in Forza 3 because that game took me around 150 hours to compete. Well I've been saying for a few months now that I will have to 1K Forza 4 because I completed Forza 2 & 3 but this time it will take a lot longer. I'm guessing 200 hours to 100% the game which is waaaaay to much time even if its a great game.

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I think some of you are missing the point as far as being 5 points and people complaining. Why would you not complain? Basically forcing you to buy further hardware to play a game that is "useable" with Kinect but not required. Whether you buy it or play at a friends house whatever, is irrelevent. I don't know anyone with Kinect and I am absolutely disgusted at the inclusion of this achievement. I can only see this as a huge can of worms being opened with future Kinect compatible games. "Lead your squad through a level using Kinect voice controls" "Get a grenade kill by waving your arm like a Jedi in a ranked match" there is no limit to the way these achievements can be added to games, and I almost think Microsoft would push games to do it if they are Kinect compatible.

 

I have absolutely no intention of buying Kinect, and I have no intention of playing Forza 4 now. It isn't because I won't get the 1000, it is because of the audacity of the developer who were probably forced by microsoft corporate to include an achievement that basically shoves Kinect in my face. I don't care if you make games Kinect compatible, thats fine, but making a game that basically requires the purchase of additional hardware that is not already required to play the game as intended is basically like a nut shot with a wiffle ball bat.

 

As for the rest of the achievements, it is basically Forza 3's list with 1 clever achievement and the addition of 2 very very bad achievements. That being import a Forza 3 save file and the Kinect one. So not only do you want me to go through every event (probably double Forza 3's event list) again and get 1st. But I need Kinect and a Forza 3 save file as well? Forza 4 sold out, basically pushing Microsofts new baby Kinect, plus a warthog in the game as well....... are you kidding me?

 

Ruining an awesome game by gimmicky trash. I bet you see "Halo" billboards on tracks and Ronald Mcdonald as guest race announcer too. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Batmobile with Arkham City Advertisement as the 1st "Unicorn Car"

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Well from all peoples surrounding me, friends and friends on xbox live. NO one even has it. IMO theres no point in this Id rather go drive my truck then hold some sticks and drive a car on tv.. Then same let say for cabela DH2011 you dont see the gun since they made it for the kinect or gun thing you hold. Id rather go shoot my 300mag at a bear or anything then at the tv with a plastic thing.

 

A gaming system IMO you need a remote good gameplay/online and graphics. Now forza inputs kinect.

 

Just saying Atleast 20 people I know in town got new xbox without KINECT. Only 2 person I know that have kinect is its there parents bought it for kids.

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I think some of you are missing the point as far as being 5 points and people complaining. Why would you not complain? Basically forcing you to buy further hardware to play a game that is "useable" with Kinect but not required. Whether you buy it or play at a friends house whatever, is irrelevent. I don't know anyone with Kinect and I am absolutely disgusted at the inclusion of this achievement. I can only see this as a huge can of worms being opened with future Kinect compatible games. "Lead your squad through a level using Kinect voice controls" "Get a grenade kill by waving your arm like a Jedi in a ranked match" there is no limit to the way these achievements can be added to games, and I almost think Microsoft would push games to do it if they are Kinect compatible.

 

I have absolutely no intention of buying Kinect, and I have no intention of playing Forza 4 now. It isn't because I won't get the 1000, it is because of the audacity of the developer who were probably forced by microsoft corporate to include an achievement that basically shoves Kinect in my face. I don't care if you make games Kinect compatible, thats fine, but making a game that basically requires the purchase of additional hardware that is not already required to play the game as intended is basically like a nut shot with a wiffle ball bat.

 

As for the rest of the achievements, it is basically Forza 3's list with 1 clever achievement and the addition of 2 very very bad achievements. That being import a Forza 3 save file and the Kinect one. So not only do you want me to go through every event (probably double Forza 3's event list) again and get 1st. But I need Kinect and a Forza 3 save file as well? Forza 4 sold out, basically pushing Microsofts new baby Kinect, plus a warthog in the game as well....... are you kidding me?

 

Ruining an awesome game by gimmicky trash. I bet you see "Halo" billboards on tracks and Ronald Mcdonald as guest race announcer too. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Batmobile with Arkham City Advertisement as the 1st "Unicorn Car"

This guy hit the nail on the head: it's about this being a slippery slope and paving the way for future titles to do the same. All we have to do is look at the current state of DLC (extensive pre-planned and day-zero content, vendor exclusive content, season passes) to see how things can get worse.

 

If nobody complains about this stuff, and I don't think most will, then I'd expect to see it in many more games from MS-owned developers. It's almost impossible to own a "complete edition" of many current triple-a titles because of vendor exclusive content, and it is nasty to see completion heading down the same path.

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I have the following things to say:

 

1) There's a Kinect achievement, the world won't end.

 

2) There's an achievement tied to Forza 3, I wonder if you'll need the disc to get the achievement.

 

3) I wonder if it's possible for x360a to pool money together for a unicorn car, and then transfer it from person to person, to unlock the achievement.

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It's sad that no one plays for fun anymore. I guess the 360 is everyone's first console.

 

Couldn't agree more, takes me back to the N64 days where me and my mates would play for hours for the sheer fun, and not compete for 'goals'

 

Can't believe how many people are throwing a tantrum like a 5 year old about achievements, i'm looking forward to seeing the new and improved car graphics and gameplay, not to mention the autovista mode and top gear track.

 

So there will be 1 achievement i know i will never unlock. But it has been said before, that you do not need to buy a kinect to experience what the game has on offer. and before anyone says anything about the kinect intergrated gameplay, remember no one was bitching about this before the achievement list was revealed.

 

Turn 10 is merely open to new ideas by intergrating the kinect and if you believe what Dan Greenawalt says, kinect is actually making the graphics better so i am more than happy to sacrifice 5 lousy points for a better looking game but hey if the only thing people care about with video games these days is posting in their sig how many 1000/1000 games they have completed then pick up a few disney games next time your out and leave the adult games to the adults.

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You are not making any sense at all.

 

Challenge accepted

 

I was refering to this article. LINK: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-9317-Turn-10--“The-Graphics-Are-Better-in-Forza-4-Because-of-Kinect”.html

 

So if Turn 10 refused to intergrate kinect you wouldn't have the kinect achievement:woop: but you wouldn't have nicer graphics either, was merely stating which one i would prefer.

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I have to agree, if you're so bothered about achievements then just borrow a Kinect sensor off of somebody. If you are actually bothered about the game itself and are genuinely looking forward to it then 5G here or there is nothing. It'd be nice to get 100% on every game we own, but it's not always possible.

 

Don't get so worked up about console achievements. You can't put them on your resume/CV, it won't change anything.

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To be honest, it looks like there is not much point complaining about the kinect achievement, because it will be the least of your worries :

 

"To give you an idea of the sort of time investment that you will need, Turn 10's target is to have less than 1% of players with any manufacturer at level 50 within the first 24 months. You may not be pleased to know that one achievement will involve getting a manufacturer affinity to level 50."

 

Looks like Forza 4 will be the SO4 of racing games. Cant wait for this =)

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To be honest, it looks like there is not much point complaining about the kinect achievement, because it will be the least of your worries :

 

"To give you an idea of the sort of time investment that you will need, Turn 10's target is to have less than 1% of players with any manufacturer at level 50 within the first 24 months. You may not be pleased to know that one achievement will involve getting a manufacturer affinity to level 50."

 

Looks like Forza 4 will be the SO4 of racing games. Cant wait for this =)

 

Does that mean you have to get one car to level 50 or does it combine all cars for a certain manufacturer?

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I think some of you are missing the point as far as being 5 points and people complaining. Why would you not complain? Basically forcing you to buy further hardware to play a game

 

 

Wrong!

 

You can play 90%+ of Forza 4 without kinect. To play 100% of the game you need kinect and to get 100% of the achievements you need kinect.

 

The box art tells you this with the 'kinect compatible' (or whatever it says) logo so in my view that makes the achievement list perfectly reasonable.

 

Stop getting angry over nothing.

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Does that mean you have to get one car to level 50 or does it combine all cars for a certain manufacturer?

 

I imagine its based on all the cars within a manufacturer... so you would pick one and grind it out to level 50. But if Turn 10s estimations are correct, the Kinect achievement will be the last thing on your mind.

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In all honesty the achievement that will most likely keep me from 100% this game will not be the Kinect acheivement. It is a very easy achievement to acquire and only requires me to go to Best Buy. The three achievements that will most keep me away are " Unicorn Hunter" (sounds like a luck based achievement and even if you could outright buy it, the costs should be sky high), "Factory Driver" and "Bucket List" (just from the time commitment). This alone is a total of 150 G's

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I don't get it. What's a unicorn car?

 

Unicorn Cars are usually put on the auction house by Turn10 and go for stupid money like $20+ million credits so they were rare in Forza3 and hard to come by

 

Turn10 say they'll have there own tab in the auction house now so they'll be easier to find (but still not as easy to win) and they'll be putting more on in Forza4 so hopefully more people can get them :woop:

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I have the following things to say:

 

1) There's a Kinect achievement, the world won't end.

 

2) There's an achievement tied to Forza 3, I wonder if you'll need the disc to get the achievement.

 

3) I wonder if it's possible for x360a to pool money together for a unicorn car, and then transfer it from person to person, to unlock the achievement.

 

@2 The achievement just needs a save from Forza3 not the actual game :woop:

 

@3 The achievement needs you to actually BE THE WINNING BIDDER I'm afraid so passing the car around wouldnt work in this case (see below)

 

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/1751/-f0LUg==.jpgUnicorn Hunter10 http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/site/gp-g.pngBe the winning bidder on any "unicorn" car in the Auction House.http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/site/icons/comments.gif (22)

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Wrong!

 

You can play 90%+ of Forza 4 without kinect. To play 100% of the game you need kinect and to get 100% of the achievements you need kinect.

 

The box art tells you this with the 'kinect compatible' (or whatever it says) logo so in my view that makes the achievement list perfectly reasonable.

 

Stop getting angry over nothing.

 

 

XD I am looking forward to the headtracking feature... with a wheel its heaven to look to the sides. You don´t have to drill your head, just lean to the left. :woop:

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