Caravan Master Achievement

  • Caravan Master

     

    30

    Win 30 games of Caravan.

    You'll have to win 30 games of Caravan for this one. You can continuously play (and win) against the same opponent. See the following YouTube video for some advanced tricks.

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  • A good person to grind this out on is the shop owner in Novac. Just head inside the big dinosaur and challenge the guy behind the counter. He only bets around 200-400 depending on how many caps you dump to him trying to figure this game out, but then after you beat him like 20 times he's only betting 1-5 caps per game, so there's no real risk of breaking your own bank trying to get this. Also, never challenge the NCR ambassador in The Strip, he'll beat you like you owe him child support.
  • haah your comment on the child support part was hilarious i must say
  • I really don't like caravan because it is very confusing to me
  • Thanks! I thought it sounded kind of funny at least...
  • I suck at caravan :(
  • I believe the bartender at the Mojave Outpost is a pretty terrible caravan player.
  • @1 There is a very cheap way to play caravan that will pretty much let you beat anybody. If you want to beat him badly or if you're short on caps (he usually bets over 1000 the first time), look here (SPOILER ALERT) http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/959557-fallout-new-vegas/faqs/61184 (SPOILER ALERT)
  • If your looking for an easy way to win at caravan, just get at least 2 10s, 2 9s and 2 7s (it helps if you have more). Just play anyone, (i dont know whos good and whos bad), and before you play a card, discard your cards until you hae the 2 10s, 9s and 7s. Then just build two of the pile things (caravans to be specific)to equal 26, and you should then win. This is working for me, and once i got the hang of it, i never lost a game (im on 15 wins) Hope this helps :)
  • I don't think you can just grind it out on one character; I've played a couple of people about 4-6 times and I no longer have the option to play them. Just keep moving around and you'll get it eventually. People I've found relatively easy to beat are: Lacey (Mojave Outpost) Johnson Nash (Primm) Ringo (Goodsprings/Crimson Caravan Company)
  • Correction: you seem to be able to play Ringo an unlimited amount of times. The stakes are pretty small with him, so you should be able to get the hang of it.
  • Even if you use the 7, 9 and 10 method, you will still lose a lot of the time. I've used that method every time and my record is currently 5 wins and 10 losses. It would help if Caravan wasn't such a crap and complicated game. So much for Obsidian coming up with a "fun" card game...
  • Caravan is the easiest way to make money.. Takes a bit to understand the game, but once you get it, easy. You still lose occasionally, but more often then not you're winning. I still don't understand exactly what the Joker does.. Object just is to get 2 of your 'caravans' (lines of cards) to 21-26, the order of cards is either ascending or descending depending on the first card laid after the initial card. It seems suited cards can be played in any order. In order to win, you need to have 2 caravans at the correct numbers with your opponent not having 21-26 on his corrosponding stack. Jacks on his lines will remove cards. Very Handy for wins!
  • The joker, removes every card of the suit that you place it on. If you place it on a ten of hearts, then it will remove every heart from the board including yours.
  • Max out on 10's & Kings. I kept drawing both off start, and 20 after first card is nice starting place
  • I spent time buying up caravan cards whenever I could find them, and I think I have about 6x 7, 7x 9, and 8x 10 (plus a bunch of other cards), but I built a deck around 7x 10, 7x 9, 6x 7, 3x 6, 3x A, and 4x Jack (30 cards). This deck sets you very well for the game since most every combo will set you at 26. In your starting hand lay down 10s or 7s to start the run, then play a 9 on either, and finish with the complementary card (10 on a 7-start, or 7 on a 10-start.) Since I don't have enough 7-9-10 to build the deck entirely on a the combo, the Aces and sixes are in there as "good" start/finishes, as you can start a run on the Ace, follow with a six, and then you should probably have drawn a 9 and 10 to finish, or a six makes 10-9 a 25, which can sometimes win the pile. The Jacks are i
  • Rest of the comment: The Jacks are in there to fill out the deck, but also to remove cards from the middle of your opponent's runs, i.e. take the middle out of a run that's already at 25 or 26. I popped this achievement with 30-3 record, with two of those losses early on when I didn't have a very good deck, and one mystery loss where I had all piles at 26, but somehow the NPC won.
  • I've triede playing caravan many many times and just don't get the game. And have yet to win one against anyone. Is there anyway someone can dumb it down for me and simply explain the point of the game?
  • In Caravan you are laying cards down on the table in an attempt to get to a number between 21 and 26, and you are winning an area by having a set of cards with higher value than your opponent wihtout going over 26. Cards must be played in a sequence, ascending or descending, e.g. if you start a pile with 5 and follow with 6, you can only play a card higher than 6 on that pile next. Cards are valued at face value, but face cards have special value/abilities. Your goal should be to get to "winning" combinations as quickly as possible while sabotaging your opponent when able. That's the basis behind the deck set-up I outline above. If you want to know more about what the face-cards do, here is an off-site link at IGN with information; in my estimation, the only face card you need to w
  • Gah.. post limit. If you want to know more about what the face-cards do, here is an off-site link at IGN with information; in my estimation, the only face card you need to worry about is a jack, or that you understand what a King does and why you might want to use a Jack to take it out of your opponent's Caravan. http://faqs.ign.com/articles/113/1130815p1.html
  • Not too difficult, just a grind. And Caravan is pretty fun, unique, and once you understand it you'll question how you couldn't get it earlier.
  • KohrinSoulez, #14, hit the nail on the head...10's & kings is the way to go. You can get this achievement with Ringo at the very beginning of the game with the starter deck that he gives you. Just get rid of your queens & jacks as well as your jokers, and most of your low cards-2's,3's,4's. Make sure your deck is bigger than his. Start out with your high cards-10's, 9's etc. If you draw a king, drop it on one of those. Should fall into place from there. Once I figured out this strategy I was able to set all 3 of my "caravans" in usually 6-8 moves. I knocked out my last 15 matches in around 30 minutes last night. And you can keep playing Ringo even after he's out of cash, just hit Y to accept& start match. You just won't get any money when you win.
  • If you draw 2 10's & 2 kings from the start, you can have 2 piles at 20 in 4n moves...very easy win.
  • i got no idea how this game works!
  • I find caravan easy because of my strategy but this achievement will take some time but my advice is to not bet so much caps so you dont waste them especially if you do not know how to play the card game properly
  • I find caravan kind of easy, but when i get 26 in each caravan i dont win and i dont know why! can someone help?
  • I've won 42 games of caravan, and lost 10 times, anyone know why I haven't got the achievement?
  • the general or colonel in the ncr compound at the end of the strip is the easiest guy to beat imo.
  • This achievement was not that hard to attain, once I figured out what the hell was going on. I have to agree with posts 8 and 15, the "7's, 9's , 10's" was the easiest for me. Caravan, as an actual card game though, is lame! Not to mention all the bugs. I had weird issues with placing my cards at first, and on multiple occasions I got 3x26 before the other player but did not win. Although, it is a great way of making a lot of caps fast.
  • Two notes: * The game can't end with any tied caravans. So if there's a tie anywhere, the game will keep going until that tie is broken. * Don't forget that you can play Kings on your opponent as well. Good for busting out one of their caravans so they have to waste a Jack on themselves, or discard the entire train.
  • No matter what I do I cannot do any of the methods from videos or from walkthroughs. Whenever I get to the second round I can't place anything on my stacks and I keep having to discard or start a new stack. Fuck this, I'm done.
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AorCJkgie_s This video really helped me, now I am on the way to 30 wins :) I hope it helps you also. :)
  • This is the stupidest fucking mini game EVER put into a game. They explain NOTHING whatsoever and half of the time it won't even let me play any card except one that fucks me over. God this shit is retarded. Would love to kick the asshole who thought up this brilliant game right in the fucking teeth.
  • this is easy and makes some fun to play you need to find ringo at the Crimson Caravan Company he'll play with you til you get this achievement...
  • Play against Jules in North Vegas Square he sucks really bad and I guarantee that you will win almost every time if you are any decent at the game so good luck getting this achievement.
  • Uncle Cousin posted a great link for this one. The 10s, 9s, 7s trick worked perfectly. I just walked up to Ringo and schooled him 30 in a row.
  • Just keep beating Ringo (if you can) at the Crimson Caravan until you get it. He never bets a lot of caps, so it isn't very costly if you lose.
  • The 10's, 9's, 7's deck combo works wonders, thanks for that posting. I went 56 - 7, but I have not gotten either of the two achievements. I mean wtf must I do more to get it?! I mean this game is so buggie that I got the Desert Survivalist achievement at 30,357 points of healing and the game never said I beat it on hardcore which I did 3 different times and working on the fourth. Is there a way I can get some info to contact Bethesda or Obsidian and bitch?
  • Lol Ringo failed...
  • Can the wins be spanded across different couriers? I have one Courier with 11 wins and another with 16. Will those add up or will I have to do all 30 on one Courier?
  • 10s, 9s, 7s, 6s, 5s, 4s and playing Ambassador Crockett did it for me. He really does suck major dong.
  • The guy that works for the GunRunners is harder that most people but you can vs him a few times if you need to.
  • I just got this playing the old git at Novac, played almost all my games with him, in one hit. Towards the end he ran out of money.
  • Having tried to get this for the last few hours, and failing to understand (despite several guides and wiki entries to the contrary) why i can't make the exact same moves as the AI, or why the AI can take my stacks to 40-50 and above whereas I can't add a single stack to its own regardless of suite or numerical value? THERE IS NO MIDDLE FINGER BIG ENOUGH.
  • I played the guy in Novac 4 times now it will not give me the option to play again WTF!
  • easiest way is have a deck of 10s 6s kings and jacks. play a 10 on eack caravan for first card. add a 6 to each pile. king on your 10 gives 26. jacks are just filler....my deck has 8x 10,6,K and 6xJ....havent lost yet
  • Dale Barton at the Fort is an annoying dude to play against....UUGGHH...these deck tips are helpful though thanks all :)
  • CAN NOT understand this game for shit!
  • Ok people fill a deck full of 7s,9s,10, and jacks.. play ringo in the crimson caravan company, place down 10s followed by 9s then 7s and use jacks to remove a card from the enemy stacks. There ya go short, sweet, and to the point.
  • i understand that you want your piles over 21 but what is confusing is why i cant play cards on certain decks...
  • If your second card on one of your stacks is higher in value than the first one, you have to continue going up in value, (unless you lay a queen, which will allow you to go the opposite way, in this case, lower in value). Vice versa, meaning if the second card on a stack is lower than the first, you have to keep going lower in value (unless you lay a queen). Kings double the card value of whichever card you lay it on, and Jacks will remove whatever card you put it on. Jack's, Queen's, and King's can be played on your stacks, or your opponents. Ignore Jokers imo. Another bend to the rule of only going higher or lower in value if you do not have a queen, is if the suit is the same, you can use the card, but it cannot be the exact same value. I got my achievement playing Ringo, he is really e
  • ^ Ringo is easy to beat, and cheap ;)
  • Does anyone have a video of how to play and easily beat someone in caravan? The text walkthroughs just don't seem to help me at all.
  • I can honestly not relate this game to any real card game lol
  • Right, this was pretty easy for me as i found Ringo in the Crimson Caravan Camp, you literally walk through the door and walk directly in front of you and he will be standing outside a caravan, he only plays with a deck of 22 and is really easy to beat if you have the right cards. I used about all my Kings, 10`s, 9`s, 7`s and Jack`s. If you know how to play Caravan then you should know why i used them cards. After i beat him, i played him again and again until the Achievement popped up, it is really easy. It will help if you buy some cards aswell, just check each of the shops you know of and buy them. Anyone in need of help, just message me. - Event Control
  • I agree on the 10's & Kings tip. That is the best way to quickly get to 26. Also use Jacks to lower your opponents caravans (very useful). Another tip is to collect cards from the same suit (2 suits works best, hearts & spades for example). If your cards are from the same suit it doesn't matter if you go up or down in numbers you can always lay them on top of your caravans. The first card determines the suit, so the more cards you have from the same suit, the easier to win.
  • I finished with 30 wins and 4 losses with the 10, 9, 7 tactic and played every game with Ringo. Just remember to use Jacks to take one card away from your opponents pile of cards and also put Kings to your opponents pile of cards so it goes over 26. I started getting the achievement today and I had no idea how to play whole game. I just watched Rooster Teeth's video which link is in the comment number 32 and i got it almost right away.
  • this achievement is utter bullshit have a brilliant deck and still fucking lose
  • Caravan is fun and strategic. Play against No-bark. He uses a lot of Jacks, and uses them early, so lay down crap cards (A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) to start. He'll use his jacks to remove them. One fun strategy (that would really piss your friends off if you played this game in real life) would be to collect a deck of 6s, 10s, Ks, and Js. Sixes are unique because they're the only card that falls into the range of 21-26 if you play 2 K on them. So use your 6 and 10 to get to 16, and use a K on your 10 to get to 26. Use jacks to kill your opponent's hand. No-bark is relatively easy once you get used to him raping all your initial piles with jacks.
  • Whatever you do on the '10,9,7'strategy, first remove the updates and clear the cache, otherwise the bug switching most of the cards won't work. (That is were you start, press LT and dump all the shitty cards like aces, jacks, queens, jokers, etc.) Sometimes you might lose a hand or get in trouble with cards, but hey! That's were save games come in handy :D
  • Start with a 2 or 10. U have to play ur cards n order from whatever u started wit. It goes 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 or 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2. Say this is ur hand (2,4,6,7,8). Play ur 2, then u would play ur 4, then 6, then 7, then 8. U piles have to have their numbers go in order. U can not go 2,4,7,6 that is not in order. The same applies if u play a 10. U have to go from 10-2. Ace-1, king-double the card up it by. (If you put it by a 7, it becomes 14), queen- is to reverse ur order of the cards.(say ur pile is 2,4,5,8, and all ur cards are lower than 8. Play ur queen next to the 8 and u will be able to play card lower than 8. 7,6,5,4,3,2.) Jacks- are to remove any card u put it next to.(use on pile that comp is close to 26 on)Jokers-remove all cards of the same number off the board.(if u see the
  • A note: If you think you understand the rules but can't seem to put ANYTHING down on your second row (like myself, for a LONG time), press DOWN on the joystick. I don't know if this is the problem some of you are complaining about or if I'm just a dumb-dumb, but it took me FOREVER to figure out that they automatically put the cursor on the "put on top of" option (for kings and such) rather than the "put your next card down" option.
  • this card game has to be the worst ever it was my last achievement before the dlc. if i lost a round i was not surprised if i won i was shocked. but those still trying i played with um that guy at the caravan outpost best of luck
  • what a shit achievement, i am so sick of playing this stupid fucking game
  • This is the last one for me for all of NV (including DLC). I'm slowly getting there. No more minigames Bethesda, please.
  • Caravan is so much fun, when i cant play New Vegas, i play it on iPhone or IRL. But seriously Bethesda. minigames can wait.
  • If anyone is still having trouble with it, find Jules. He bets 0-10 caps and is easy to beat
  • Guys play Ringo,hes easiest. Also Issac is pretty easy. Save before every Caravan Match,after every win save,after every loss,load it up. No Bark is probably the hardest I encountered he has so many Jokers that I was constantly cussing him at calling him an A Hole,and cheater ha ha. Eventually I took out all my Kings and jokers and played with Aces,2s,3s 5s,8s,9s,and 10s. I started winning really fast (Sometimes within a minute litterly) cause i was comfortable playing this way. If my opponet laid a king ontop of my pile,I discarded the whole pile,this happened rarely. The game is confusing at first. Think of it like an Auction were you want to ''outbid'' the opponet. Or like having an army and upgrading the army to maxium efficiency. The key is to get as close to or at 26. D
  • Continued. Don't go over 26,Jokers can decrease an overboard number,it can also make an opponets 26 go down. A King can make you get to 26 fast,and make an opponet go over 26 just as fast. Discard all queens early on they are useless,and any ''Joke'' Joker cards,that have a full bodied Jester. Save Ringo early on at Good Springs from the Powder gangers. Then at the Gas Station immediatly challenge him in Caravan. After the 3 victors you will get the first caravan achivement. Issac is at Gunn Runners near Freeside. Ringo can be found at ''Crimson Caravan Company.''
  • @63, holy crap dude, relax, it's just a game. if you don't want to play this "stupid fucking game" then don't bother capish? getting so worked up over an achievement it's pathetic. i'm three achievements away from 16555 points .. just the two caravan achievements and a GRA challenge. but if all the achievements were easy to obtain.. it wouldn't be that exciting to get them, would it? damn.
  • which is the easyist person to win
  • being a complete lootwhore, I bought up all the cards I could while at any traders I came across (it's the first "tab", the one with their name). then I built a deck made up of only 7s, 9s, 10s, Jacks and Kings. then I did the discard till you have 3 10s, 2 9s and 2 7s. the NPC will randomly choose one caravan to build up, so you should focus on the other two with your 9s and 7s. only problem I've come across is when the NPC uses Jacks and Kings to screw with me. I've had to resort to 9+K+7s a few times... but I just got this achievement with only two losses (42 caps in total, heh)
  • i use the 7s ยด9s 10s jacks and kings deck play all the matches with keith cant win any money just i play it for the | Achievement anyway it will take time but it works good my opinion on of the easiest one to beat
  • Such an annoying game.
  • The deck I used was this: 0 cards: Queens 1 card: (nothing) 2 cards: Ace, 2, Joker 3 cards: 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 4 card: Jack, King Total: 38 cards I believe all these are obtainable in the starter deck Ringo gives you if you help him in Goodsprings.
  • I'd advise you play Ringo for this, since he'll play continually. His strategy is to score quickly, with minimal sabotage (face cards), so you'll need to deploy a bit of sabotage yourself to stop him. Getting ahead of myself though... For the game to end, each pair of caravan stacks must have at least one good score (21-26). For you to win, you must have the best score (closest to 26 without going over) in at least 2 of the 3 pairs of caravan stacks when the game ends. So, if your opponent already has the best score in 2 of the 3 stacks, don't make your score 21-26 in the remaining stack, or you'll lose instantly (also, you'll need sabotage your opponent to make sure he/she doesn't complete their 3rd stack).
  • Now, about Ringo himself. As mentioned, he'll score quickly- usually he'll have a good score on one of his stacks in his first 2-3 turns. I recommend you build your stack opposite the one he's building, then sabotage his when he has a good score. He might use sabotage himself, but it's uncommon- he's only got 1 Jack & 1 King, perhaps 2. About sabotage cards- Jack: you can use one to remove a card from either your or Ringo's stacks. You could also proposely raise one of your stacks above 26, then use a jack to lower it (ex: with a stack worth 27, a jack can remove that ace stuck at the bottom, giving you 26).
  • (cont. from last) King: either double the value of one of your cards to make a stack have a good score, or sabotage Ringo's good score by doubling the highest card in one of his stacks. Using sabotage is good, as Ringo is unlikely to use a jack to remove the affected card and will have to discard the whole stack. Also, if you've already got the best score on 2 of the 3 pairs of stacks, you can use the king on his remainging stack to make that stack have a good score, making you win instantly. Joker: you use this like a jack with a twist. Be careful that you don't mess up a King sabotage when using one. If you make your 2 aces a different suit then your other cards, you can wipe out all his cards of that suit without effecting yourself.
  • I've been playing this game for years now and still don't understand to how to play god damn caravan... Only one of few achievements i need now. I've won 5 games and lost 0 and i don't even know what i'm doing haha
  • I've seen a lot of guides and short topics created about this, and some YouTube videos, but all have been unnecessarily complex. This is the SIMPLEST was to always win Caravan. You don't need more than the original deck you are given for a sure-fire win. Just take four 6's, 8's, 9's, 10's, Jacks, Queens, Kings, and the two Jokers... that should be the bare minimum allowed to start a game (26 cards) and is the highest probability of a quick win. Combos to try for: 10 + 6 (ascending or descending, drop a king on the 10 = 26) 10 + 6 + Queen + 10 = 26 10 + 8 (ascending or descending, king the 6 for 26) 9 + 8 (ascending or descending, king the 9 for 26) 9 + 8 + Queen + 9 = 26 Each of these caravans usually take 3 or 4 cards to hit 26. For defense (if needed) drop Jac
  • For defense (if needed) drop Jacks (and Kings) on opponents caravans to keep them low (or make them bust). Try not to use Kings defensively unless you have to to prevent an opponent from suddenly winning (very rare). Also you might use a Jack on your own hand in a rare situation when you see in your hand an easy 26 bid if you clear a card already played. You don't "need" 26 on each hand to work, but you'll get it often with this deck. I got cut off, hope this helps.

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